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October 31, 2005

Dobson calls for Halloween flag desecration

James Dobson's website today features a series of tips for parents who want to make Halloween (a reenactment of pagan rituals) a little more Christian. Included in his suggestions:

Dress your children in costumes that focus on history, pretend or fantasy, rather than on the macabre or occult –– Bible heroes, Abraham Lincoln, the American flag, sailors, cowboys, Indians, ballerinas, princesses, doctors, firefighters.

That's weird. I thought wearing the American flag violated the flag code.

Section 8d: The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

So Dobson supports the desecration of the American flag.

Posted By Bob Cesca | October 31, 2005 12:06 PM | DIGG ME!

Comments

Actually, many Christians are not following the traditional Halloween celebration with its ghouls, witches and other occult stuff. Harvest celebrations--hayrides, bonfires, bobbing for apples (yuck, all that spit!) are increasing in popularity. But yes, wearing the flag is a desecration...

Posted by: Valerie at October 31, 2005 09:20 PM

Hold on, didn't Native Americans practice religions other than Christianity? Oh that's right he means dress up in stereotypical cheesy menacing "Indian" garb and ignore all other aspects of their culture.

Dobson is a pure asshat.

Posted by: John McGinn at November 1, 2005 09:22 AM

And your point, Valerie, is that yes, Dobson promotes desecration of the flag?

Posted by: john at November 1, 2005 09:58 AM

Funny, the "Harvest Celebrations" are more in line with the true traditional pagan traditions surounding the holiday.

Posted by: Erik at November 1, 2005 11:36 AM

It would be more accurate for Dobson's minions to focus on their bloody history. Early Christians destroyed the Celtic (aka pagan) culture of Western Europe and it's environs. They burned pagans at the stake -- and they'd do it again if they ever get the chance.

Posted by: Walter at November 1, 2005 02:07 PM

Boy, I love it when American Cheese cutters like Dobson get slapped by their own cheerleading stupidity. FITZ FOR PRETZ 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: ravebyron at November 1, 2005 04:21 PM

Harvest Celebration is to Holloween what Intelligent Design is to Creationism

Posted by: Kathleen at November 1, 2005 04:46 PM

Funny that they abhor any type of spring (read: fertility) festivals, but they'll celebrate the harvest ones!

Posted by: Charles M. at November 1, 2005 04:49 PM

I think pagans should rise up and take back Christmas too. All the trappings were stolen from Mithras, but Merry Mithrasmas is too hard to say.

Posted by: Jess Wundrun at November 1, 2005 04:53 PM

the true hypocricy of dobson's remarks are more couched in creeping liberalism w/in the christian right. what happened to the good ol days when evangelical christians actually forbid their kids prom participating in the pagan ritual...no jack-o-lantern...no trick or treating..invite the misguided youths in for a bible lesson...???

his flag idea is definitely a legal violation of the spirit of the law. he should be pubicly flogged w/ a cat of nine tails. maybe then he can be truthful about following in the footsteps of jesus. and just for good measure, he should be wearing g.h.w. bush's flag cowboy boots when the flogging takes place.

dobson is a plague...

Posted by: wtmoore at November 1, 2005 05:21 PM

Cool. Next year I'm going to dress the kids as Puritans. We can do a little American history tableau out in the front yard. I'll play Cotton Mather, and the kids can run around screaming about witches. Of course, we might run into some trouble getting someone to play a witch when we start dunking and hanging. Hmm. I'll have to think on that one.

It'll be so cool and christian! I just wish Dobson had gotten to me sooner with his great plan.

Posted by: Michael at November 2, 2005 09:22 AM

The scariest costume I could think of for Halloween was a historical one - the Spanish Inquisition! (picture here)

Posted by: Sylvia at November 2, 2005 09:27 AM

Dobson concerns himself with dressing up young children for his fantasies? Did someone say pedophile?

Posted by: Ultraright at November 2, 2005 10:38 AM

Being a former Girl Scout and a Patriot, I have been appalled at how little these flag-waving Nationalists know about flag etiquette. I have seen flags left out in the rain; flags that are so dirty and grimey from being attached to cars that you have to stare closely to see that they are American flags; flags hung sideways in doorways and windows and on and on. These people really believe they are being patriotic when in reality they are desecrating the flag they pretend to honor.

Posted by: sd at November 2, 2005 10:54 AM

Hi Walter -

Actually, it was the Roman Catholic Church that most severely compromised Celtic culture throughout Europe in the early middle ages. Christianity in Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Man, Cornwall and Brittany was a hybrid of pagan and Christian attitudes and practices -- see the Carmina Gadelica, Hymns, Prayers and Incantations published by Lindesfarne Press.

Posted by: Helen at November 2, 2005 11:51 AM

How about dressing up like some of those beloved real Christian heroes like Torquemada (The grand inquisitor) who tortured and executed non believers or the Salem Puritans who burned witches at the stake, or one of those crusaders who slaughtered the Muslim infidels. I mean, why not have your robotic Focus on the Family children dress up as people whose attitudes reflect the very same qualities embodied by Dobson, himself.

Posted by: Jazzman at November 2, 2005 03:06 PM


oh good god, make a crack about the fundies and it brings silly nationalists and romantics out of the closet.

you might be Irish or Scottish or Welsh or Galician or Breton or Manx or COrnish. you're not a medieval Celt. enough already. there's plenty of more recent Irish and British history to be genuinely upset about.

Posted by: scrutator at November 2, 2005 04:26 PM

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