Yes, yes!

O-BA-MA, O-BA-MA, YES WE CAN!!! I STILL BELIEVE!!!

You should have heard me and my daughter walking while cheering through the mostly empty terminal at the Louisville airport Thursday night.:)

I have real affection for all those people I've met and talked with. Obama supporters are THE BEST!

Anyone with common sense will know that Obama don't have a snowball chance in hell of being president when the republicans are done with him. They will make people scared to death of voting for a Black president. An Obama nomination will gurantee America at least four more years of these idiots in the White House. Hillary is our only hope. They cannot throw anything at her they haven't thrown already. For those of you that don't realize that Hillary is our only hope, you are either blind or just plain stupid.

I guess I'm just plain stupid, but at least I'm not a racist.

If you think that they don't want Hillary to be the nominee, it is you who are blind. It'll be a sure 3-way race, one that they can win.

I wonder how many young women Bill has fucked with over the last several years? I'm sure it doesn't matter.

How can I be racist when I am Black you stupid fool. What does Bill infidelity have to do with Hillary? Its idiots like you that caused Al Gore the election by voting for Nader. Now you idiots want to make the same mistake. Try to know about someone before you call them a racist again. When the right wing is finish talking about Obama swearing in ceremony in Illinois and make distorting comments about muslim roots, people will avoid him. Obama have yet to be attacked, can he withstand public sentinent and lies? Hillary have gotten every attack that they can throw at her and have been receiving such attacks for over a decade, yet she still leads nationally in every poll. Go ahead and vote for Obama, so when the republicans win and the economic goes into downfall and we rage war all over the world, you can only blame yourself.

wake up fellow democrats, Hillary is our only hope. Hillary 08.

How can I be a sexist when I'm a woman? Somehow I've been called one in the last few days, and I've called a few women sexist myself. And I have an acquaintance who would call himself a bigot and he's black. So, that's a question for a college classroom, I guess.
You're describing the things that the Clintons have capitalized on, not the republicans. They don't have to, Hillary is taking from Rove's playbook.
You're very representative as to one reason why no Independent or republican will vote for Clinton, I've been told so from folks in KY, IA, NH, and Baltimore. All you're doing is to serve as a wake up call for those of us who fall into thinking that democrats are still democrats and republicans are still republicans. I wish you could see through what you just wrote.
I'll just try to remind myself that you called my 3 year old daughter stupid or blind when I'm dealing with you.

My comments are not made in regards to your three year old, c'mon. I'm just giving you guys the truth and the facts. If you don't believe me, let Obama receive the nomination then i'll tell you, well I told you so, after four more years of hell.

This is also addressing the Our Hip Black Friend comments:

I’ll start by saying that it’s not as fun to argue with someone I might otherwise like. So, try not to jump in by immediately calling people stupid or blind, I’m not affected by buzzwords. All I know is all of this bullshit makes my stomach turn. I’m sorry that you’ve forgotten that you can’t have change without belief in your fellow citizens.

What facts were presented?

Stop thinking of voters in segments, and start thinking of them as individuals because it’ll likely be the Independents that decide this election (unless they register to vote last minute in their primary/caucus as my sister has to do in WA). They’re the main reason Obama lost NH (because of the established McCain vote). I would say if you haven’t already, go out and talk to people instead of listening to pundits. I am about to turn off my RSS Reader because this shit is really getting to me, I expect it from across the aisle, but this shit is gross.

I have overcome great fears and barriers to be a part of this campaign because I believe in him and his sincerity. I don’t believe, and have never believed, a fucking word that has come out of either of the Clinton’s mouths, that’s from past experience. I sense NO sincerity from her at all. Every Independent and Republican I know has already stated that they won’t vote for her no matter what, and that’s across state lines, heading down south. Now on a personal level, I’ve always thought I’d probably like the Clintons as people, but as politicians I don’t trust them at all. And I am not one of those dumbasses who would have liked to have a beer with Bush, I never understood that at all, I’ve wanted to punch him in the face since the first time I saw him.

Maybe I’m overly optimistic that the south will help elect Obama, but you’re overly optimistic that people have forgotten about Lewinsky, and you’re underestimating what a good job the Bush Admin has done tying 9-11 to his blowjob/affairs. I don’t really give a shit about him cheating on his wife, personally, I do give a shit about him lying to the grand jury and not owning up to his choices that helped drag that fiasco out longer than it needed to be.

For the record, I don’t hate him for what he did, I don’t like him because he was stupid about it. I don’t hate her for staying with him, I just don’t have a lot of respect for her for not understanding her influence over young women in the late 90’s, yet now trying to get elected for being a strong woman role model. For not understanding that I don’t want to teach my girl to stay with her husband (or wife) if he/she’s publicly humiliated her and her daughter on several occasions; especially if she's trying to position herself as a strong independent woman. Hell, if she had just left him for awhile, shown some self respect instead of acting as a calculating politician, I might have a really hard time choosing a candidate in this election. And damn near every feminist female I know feels the same way.

Inbno13 what part of the country do you reside? because I would love to live where you live, which appears to be somewhere free of prejudice and racism. You might believe I don't like Obama, but I truly like the guy, and even wish he could win someday, but I know that he will not get elected. I put my personal feelings aside and think with my sense of reason.
I am a guy and I support Hillary because I believe she can make a statement for women and let the chauvanists know that a women can run this country better than many men in the past. I really wish a Black president someday can change many stereotypes associated with minorities in this country, but America isn't there yet. I have experience more prejudice and hate that you can imagine. I live it daily. If you can live one day in my world, then maybe you will understand.
You speak of the Clintons as though they are devils and your comments seem to be out of a fox news script. Many stories of the Clintons are lies and you should not believe it. The right hated Hillary from day one, when she said "this first lady won't be in the kitchen". Hillary is a strong outspoken woman, and for that many hate her. Give her a chance. I know you might find my comments disturbing, but I am simply telling you the truth. Lets not make the mistake that we did in 2000 which caused a Gore lost and Bush win, because of the Nader factor and people not like Gore's personality. We are not voting for a personality or our likes and dislikes of an individual. We are voting for someone in the White House that fights for our beliefs and philosophy. We cannot afford to make a mistake that will give the right another four years.Another four years will mean more wars (Iran by 2009) and an economic recession. Can you afford to make that mistake?
Inbno13 give your daughter a hug and tell her the mean guy says sorry.

I live in racially divided Louisville, intentionally in a very multicultural neighborhood, an hour and change from another racially fucked up city, Cincinnati. I grew up in Louisville some of the time and but mostly in the sticks of Oldham County until I was 14, when I moved to the Bay Area. From there I have lived in West Chicago (a block from Austin), South Boston, back to CA, back to KY, back to Boston, then Bay Area, and back to KY again. I have traveled back and forth on the roads of this country more often than I can count. I have been politically informed/involved since the late 80’s. I can count in minutes instead of hours, how much time my TVs have spent on the FOX “news” channel since it’s inception in the early 90’s. I don’t watch cable news garbage. And for the record I wasn’t saying you personally were making my stomach turn, it’s the 20 newswire feeds I get going back and forth between the Clinton and Obama camps all day long while I am trying to write (which is why I let Bob and a few others filter my news for me on most days lately). Incidentally, I wonder if Edwards is going to get a boost out of this bickering.

And I know the Clintons very well. That’s the problem I know way too much about them, and I think I do know what kind of political woman she is. My mother is the COO of a large non-profit corporation in which she worked her ass off for years to be able to take that position; I chose to quit my well paid/great benefits job to stay home and raise my kid; my sister decided to stay in her DV advocate job and put her child in daycare, and has since been promoted in her job. All I am saying is that these are complicated issues, and I make my decisions completely informed, mostly by independent news, and real world situations.

I would never pretend to understand what it is to be black and live in this country, as I wouldn’t expect a man to understand what it’s like to be a woman, or vice-versa. All I know is I am making an informed decision and I am perfectly happy, no, ecstatic about Obama’s prospects. Hillary is not progressive enough for me.

In speaking of the 2000 election it is a whole other issue, one that we’ll get into if Bloomberg enters the race. It was not as simple as you put it. Hopefully, that won’t happen.

I wouldn’t say you’re necessarily mean (you don’t know what a bitch I can be :) ), you’re likely just as passionate as I am, I just think we need to try to set an example, and have a different kind of conversation as best we can. I'll try. All I can say is my opinion is no less valid than yours.
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Comment of Michelle Obama. The more she makes this a race issue the more the Obamas will be perceiived negatively.

We had a miraculous victory in Iowa," Michelle Obama said. "Ain't no black people in Iowa! Something big, something new is happening. Let's build the future we all know is possible. Let's show our kids that America is ready for Barack Obama right now."

....Michelle Obama's remarks were also peppered with references to Coretta Scott King and the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., whose 79th birthday is Tuesday. She said that should Barack Obama win in November, "America will look at itself differently and the world will look at America differently.

I completely disagree and think the opposite is true. There is a lot of real racial (well-deserved) guilt to challenge in the middle of the country. And I have no problem being called a Pollyanna.

I love Michelle (a lot), and think she's very refreshing and honest. And if you're quoting her correctly (I'm assuming you are), I agree completely and have spoken with many others, black and white, born in this country as well as immigrants, who completely agree, too.

If you haven't already, I hope you have a chance to see him orate, face to face, eye to eye.

Why not pull for Hillary, but just hope that I'm (and millions of others are) right?

The polls indicate that Senator Obama beats all of the GOP frontrunners.

Pres '08
Jan 12 CNN Obama 56%, Giuliani 40%
Jan 12 CNN Obama 59%, Romney 37%
Jan 12 CNN Obama 49%, McCain 48%
Jan 12 CNN Obama 58%, Huckabee 39%

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/polltracker/

"The polls indicate that Senator Obama beats all of the GOP frontrunners."
Agreed, but...
...I think the only even remotely palatable Republican nominee would be McCain, and still he would get trounced by both Barack Obama AND Hillary Clinton. For McCain to have even a close finish there would have to be an anti-gay marriage/adoption/breathing/sodomy bill on every ballot. That's the only way they are going to get their base charged up and out to the polls.

Despite all the fear mongering by the Republican Election War Machine, they would be content to let a Democrat win and then try to beat him/her next time around when they can run a more digestible Republican. They are patient like a snake. Cold blooded, too.

Do you believe all these racial issues between Clinton/Obama camps are isolating many White voters, or even other minority groups. The race issue might spread beyond South Carolina, where 51% of demopcrats aren't Black. Blacks still only makeup 13% of the total population. The Obama camp is playing a dangerous game.
What the hell is wrong with Michelle Obama "Aint no Blacks in Iowa", LOL, maybe someone should give her a U.S. Census book or refer her to the census website.

In terms of those poll results, we should remind ourselves that the rightwing is good at telling lies and distorting facts, thats the reason why they won in 2000, and 2004. Those poll results are without them attacking Obama with their mass amount of arsenal in their armory. If Obama gets the nomination those polls will shift quickly and decisively.

Do you believe all these racial issues between Clinton/Obama camps are isolating many White voters, or even other minority groups

No, why would they? These issues affect everyone. I do think she’s alienated some men in a way, but I am not a man, so I can’t speak to that.

I took it as she was joking. And as an aside, I think I saw one black man (staying at the hotel) inside and around the entire city of Des Moines before I drove through and stopped off in "the black" part of town on the way back to my hotel. Of course there are black folks in Iowa, but I think she was speaking of what the media had projected in terms of whites not voting for a black man.

I'm leery of the polls, too, but not so much of the people I've met and spoken to personally.

Truth -- Are we trying to elect the best candidate or should we just be reactive to the right-wing? I strongly suggest the former. Besides, the wingnuts WANT to run against Senator Clinton.

I truly do not believe they want to run against Hillary, because they will not and cannot find anything new to attack her with. She cannot be more polarizing than she is already. Obama is a bigger risk, yes we know about the cocaine use, the oath of office incident, and a few other minor issues, but is there other things we don't know about that can hurt him. The reason why I support Hillary is because I believe she is the strongest and I deeply fear four more years of these damn idiots running the White House.
In terms of the best candidate, Hillary is clearly the best candidate. She is more qualified on all fronts. Lets put our personal feelings aside and look at this objectively and we will clearly see the best candidate. Obama is a nice guy, and clearly refreshing, I would like to meet him someday and discuss many issues that impact this country, but is he the best candidate? NO NO NO. I have learn from my profession to totally disregard my personal feelings towards someone in a decision making process,maybe thats the reason why I clearly see Hillary as the only electible president for the democrats. We cannot let our personal feelings destroy what we all want, and thats to take back the White House and put the right supreme court judges in that court.
Folks, believe me when I tell you that they will destroy Obama. They destroyed Gore and Kerry not on the issues, but by attacking their personality, and injected stupid rhetorics about them. They will never win on the issues and they know it, so they attack a woman right to choose by pleeing to their hypocritical Pharasees (religious nuts) and about 2% of the population that likes their ways of tax cuts and other economical issues thats pleasing to them. They know they cannot win on the issues, so they will attack him personally. Affirmative action is still a touchy subject, do you think they will use it against him? A Black president that is pro affiirmative action, many White males would be scared to death and they will surely convince their wifes. Most of the individuals I interact with daily are White Males, and those that are republicans often bring up the subject of affirnative action. I am just using this as an example, but there will be a host of other rhetorics they will use against him.
Believe me when I tell you that they will destroy him, he is more vulnerable than we think. Our love of personality ande carisma can cause our doom. Regardless, of how you feel about the Clintons, WE NEED THEM, WE NEED THEM.