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March 05, 2008

Senator Clinton And Staying In

I don't particularly care whether Senator Clinton stays in the race or bows out on a high note. The high note thing would be the classy move, but after a week of tasteless attacks, I don't think she's capable of such a move.

However, if she stays in this thing as a de facto Huckabee spoiler, she needs to keep her fear mongering and negative attacks holstered. She will not win with pledged delegates. This is impossible. Let me repeat, she will not defeat Senator Obama on pledged delegates.

Plus, more superdelegates are apparently ready to endorse Senator Obama. For her own dignity's sake, continuing to campaign with a Mark Penn kitchen sink "Hussein" strategy will only force more superdelegates to Senator Obama's more dignified ranks, AND it will further help Senator McCain.

Dignity, Senator Clinton. You are a top shelf party leader. Act like it.

Posted By Bob Cesca | March 5, 2008 11:10 AM | DIGG ME!

Comments

Bob,

It's a noble sentiment, but both you and I know that, based on her history, it's unlikely that Clinton will take the high road.

If she is not allowed to drink her fill, she seems perfectly willing to poison the well.

It's going to be a long time until Pennsyvania.

Regards,

Packy "Hussein" Jude

Posted by: Packy Jude [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 11:39 AM

Bob:
If only. She and her surrogates made it perfectly clear this morning that they have every intention of taking this thing their way. Pledged delegates no longer matter. Supers (and even pledged) are up for grabs (read: strong arming). I hope you're right about the pack of supers ready to break for Obama, but my invisible evil twin is telling me that the telephonic taking of names is already under way. The push for Florida and Michigan will occupy much if not all of the next seven weeks' airtime that isn't devoted which candidate we here in Pennsyltucky would want to answer the NAFTA phone. My new motto is "careful what i wish for."

Posted by: Ched [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 12:03 PM

I'm sure they firmly believe that going a lot negative is what "won" them Texas. Ohio I can't figure out, but going slimy probably made it a lopsided win.
Now she speaks of a possible Clinton/Obama ticket, with her of course on top, because "the voters of Ohio said clearly it should be me". That and "the race is still close so obviously it should be me" just tells us so much about what she really thinks of voters and Barack Obama. She's determined to BE the nominee, not WIN the nomination. She's going to focus next on Pennsylvania and ignore Wyoming and Mississippi. Shit, the arrogance is just staggering. They are just determined to seize the nomination, not matter the cost. Doesn't she realize that if they wrestle away the nomination, and even then win the Presidency, her administration will have almost no legitimacy? The Dems will have no respect for her. The Republicans will trumpet loudly every day about how she "won" the nomination.

Ok I'm blathering on like it's the end of the world, and it's not, but based on her success last night her campaign is going to really lay the ugly on thick now. It's just sad, is all.

Posted by: Nanotyrannus [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 12:48 PM

...She's going to focus next on Pennsylvania and ignore Wyoming and Mississippi...

Er, um...Bill's on his way to Wyoming as we speak. Of course, Hillary's going to personally campaign wherever she has the most at stake. Doesn't mean she's ignoring Wyoming and Mississippi. They are pretty unlikely to go Blue in the general, though...

Posted by: bajasteve [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 02:34 PM

I see your point Baja, but perhaps I should have been more clear. Sure, she'll campaign in both states, but the reality is that only Pennsylvania matters out of the the three because it's her chance to grab a large number of delegates at once and a more visible win. If Obama has another two primaries/caucuses/WTF's where he wins by a comfortable 30% margin, all you will hear from her campaign is how they are looking ahead to April 4th and Pennsylvania. They will rationalize WY and MS right out of the picture. Those are Republican states, only the acivists showed up, my husband didn't win those states either, As Pennsylvania goes, so goes my new narrative, blah blah blah.
They'll campaign in WY/MS, but it will be the bare minimum. The big guns are going to come out for PA.

Posted by: Nanotyrannus [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 03:07 PM

I don't understand your indignation here. Of course she's going to concentrate her efforts where she has the most to gain. In her position, I would do the exact same thing.

Should she pour massive resources into WY and MS, in order to get a small return, in states that ultimately won't matter to a Democratic candidate in the general? Remember, in the general, there is no "apportioning" of delegates - it's all or nothing. Do you really think there's a snowball's chance in hell of Darth Chaney's state, or the backward, anti-liberal-thought state of MS coming even close to voting in the majority for either a black man or the wife of Bill Clinton? Please, give me some of what yer smokin'.

Posted by: bajasteve [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 07:45 PM

The only thing that has me riled up about her campaign strategy is that it is based on "Win the Big States, Steal the Delegates from the Little States, then Crow about how I'm the Chosen One". Part of Barack Obama's consistent success in the campaign is that he's got a good campaign going in every state, not just the ones "that matter." This is the way Howard Dean swept so many Democrats into Congress in 2006. There were no throw-aways. Is that how she plans to run the general? Wyoming we wont spend much time in because it's going to go Republican anyway? What would that strategy mean for Democrats running for any office there, state or federal? They'd be on their own, and we'd lose it. Perhaps that's my where I might seem indignant. This is all about HER becoming President, not sweeping Democrats into the Oval AND into the Congress. her whole strategy is geared towards becoming the nominee by any means necessary, besides, of course, actually winning the nomination.

Posted by: Nanotyrannus [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 5, 2008 08:02 PM

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