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April 02, 2008

Senator Obama Leading In Pennsylvania

For the first time, a poll is showing Senator Obama with a slight lead over Senator Clinton:

Barack Obama 45
Hillary Clinton 43

Obama's steep rise could be a reflection of a growing sense among Democratic voters that a continued divisive nomination process will hurt the party's chances of defeating John McCain this fall. An Obama upset in Pennsylvania would be virtually certain to force Clinton out of the race.

Obama has his customary large advantage with black voters (75-17) and is keeping it relatively competitive with white voters (49-38)

Posted By Bob Cesca | April 2, 2008 10:07 AM | DIGG ME!

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I imagine it's not just that she's trailing and has no reasonable chance at winning.

It's also the chickens coming home to roost ([sarcasm]OMG - I must be a racist if I use that phrase![/sarcasm]).

Bosnia lies exposed. Bills not being paid. Whisper campaigns saying that Obama can't be elected because white voters won't pick him. NAFTA meetings that are now coming out. Tax returns not made public. One after another, Senator Clinton's negatives are being vetted for the first real time in this campaign - and the voters don't seem to care for it. Her campaign, sadly, is becoming a joke.

It reminds me of the Huckabee campaign - after a point, it stopped being funny and was just tiring. And Senator Clinton seems to have reached that point with more and more voters. The fact that there are still 3 weeks to go doesn't make it any better for her, I'm afraid.

The question is - will she go out with pride, or as a burning fireball taking out everything around her in the process?

Posted by: John Hummel [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 2, 2008 10:21 AM

I posted this in the other PA poll thread from yesterday. Just re-posting it here.

I too live in PA. I'm hoping for a surprise Obama win and I think he can do it. I think a lot of folks are underestimating the people of PA. I know of what type of people ceu is talking about because I live in a similar community. However, I wouldn't count out an Obama win just yet based on those people. If he can win over the blue collar workers and get a union endorsement, he may be able to pull it off, no?

Posted by: Sammyscooge [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 2, 2008 10:25 AM

I still think he's going to make a good showing. Even if he doesn't win the state, I think he'll lose by only a few percentage points, 10 at best. Of course, if she wins it by a razor thin margin, she'll still crow about "winning Pennsylvania, and ya know, no Presidential candidate has ever won the White House without winning Pennsylvania during a month with a full moon and Jupiter is in the House of Virgo, blah blah blah..."

Also, I'm reading here and there that it turns out in the end Obama won Texas. Is this true? Because, ya know, no Presidential candidate has ever won the White House without winning Texas...

Posted by: Nanotyrannus [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 2, 2008 11:09 AM

Yeah, it's true. Haven't you heard me screaming it at my TV everytime someone mentions Clinton winning Texas? I was sure most everyone had...

Posted by: ceu [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 2, 2008 12:39 PM

Yep, it appears true that Obama did in fact get a few more delegates from Tx than Her Sowness. (However, the final-FINAL count won't be known until the state convention in June.) For yrs truly, a Tx native, that is some little balm for the shame of having inflicted the Bushes (faux-Texans though they are) on the planet.

These Pa polls, though, are the best news I've had in many moons... jeez, I hope they mean something. However, I look for BO's OTHER preacher - you know, the out-and-out baby-eating Satanist one - to be outed by Penn & Wolfson any day now.

Posted by: comradebob [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 2, 2008 01:13 PM

May I just ask that, in our posts here, we refrain from being surrogate Limbaughs when it comes to Hillary Clinton? I am not for her; I voted for Obama in the CA primary, and I will continue to support him to the end. But ad hominem name-calling just because you don't like a candidate from our own party is not just rude - it's obnoxious and much too like the rethuglicans when they talk about our candidates. If you want to call people names and malign them for ridiculous reasons, fine - just do it somewhere else. We are supposed to be the party of empathy and compassion, not the party of personal insult. Calling someone a "sow", just because you'd rather have someone else be our candidate for president doesn't so much reflect on them, as it does on yourself.

Strange, isn't it, that Peewee Herman was right after all?

Posted by: bajasteve [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 2, 2008 07:43 PM

My apologies.

Posted by: comradebob [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 3, 2008 12:59 PM

still i think he s going to make a good showing. Even if he doesn't win the state I think he ll lose by only a few percentage points ten at best. Of course, if she wins it by a razor thin margin, she'll still crow about winning Pennsylvania.
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Posted by: sak79 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 3, 2008 01:11 PM

But... I didn't quite get the Pee Wee Herman reference. Not only did I flunk the politesse test, I flunked the pop-culture-reference test too, I reckon.

As for empathy & compassion, well, my admittedly limited supply gets used up on the poor, honest & powerless. That, I fear, leaves me none for the junior Senator from New York.

Posted by: comradebob [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 3, 2008 01:25 PM

Peewee used to say in his movies that when you point a finger at someone, there's three more pointing back at you.

As far as your limited supply of empathy and compassion, maybe you need to work on that. And ease up on the references to "the poor, honest and powerless", ok? You're in no way unique there, and the rest of us seem to find ways to express ourselves with at least common courtesy and decency.

Posted by: bajasteve [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 3, 2008 03:57 PM

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