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May 07, 2008

Dropping Out

Posted By Bob Cesca

Okay, so Senator Clinton isn't going to drop out until there's a nominee. After all, Huckabee took this approach and didn't leave the race until Senator McCain became the presumptive Republican nominee. But that was March 4!

The Democrats and the Obama campaign need to make up for lost time, and as long as Senator Clinton hangs out and overextends her stay, she eats into Senator Obama's news cycles -- drawing media attention away from him. Bad for the nominee, good for Senator McCain. And if it's about allowing voters in the remaining several primaries to have an opportunity to choo-choo-choose her, she can still do that even if she steps aside.

Meanwhile, she's just being disruptive now and the only option is for the superdelegates to step up and potentially embarrass her.

May 7, 2008 04:45 PM | DIGG THIS

Comments

"choo choo choose" - Ralph Wiggum reference?

I have a hard time even watching HRC anymore. Let Obama fully take the spotlight that he's earned.

Posted by: Jimmyz [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 7, 2008 05:23 PM

You gotta believe that's gonna happen. Could it possibly be true that she doesn't realize she's ending her own political life? Public suicide is such a horrible thing to have to watch...

Posted by: Eclectablog [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 7, 2008 05:49 PM

Listen. And understand. That terminator is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie08 [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 7, 2008 07:35 PM

I can't help thinking that the Clintons are gonna come up with something they will use to try to hurt Obama. Look how the Wright stuff worked - and they had a hand in reviving it when it was starting to die out. Ayers went nowhere and the gas tax issue backfired. Visions of "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" keep flitting across my mind ("so he thought up a lie and he thought it up quick") Someone be kind enough to tell me I'm wrong...

Posted by: ceu [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 7, 2008 09:41 PM

I heard one opinion - don't remember who voiced it - to the effect that she shouldn't drop right now, but ease out gradually. that way, she can be a little conciliatory, and perhaps blunt some of the bitterness between the two camps. This could make a difference in November, in that her followers might be more inclined to vote for Obama. If she lieaves when emotions are running high, and tempers are flaring, there's less chance of re-uniting the party behind Obama.

Don't know if it flies, but it's something to think about...

Posted by: bajasteve [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 8, 2008 04:33 AM

Makes sense to me baja.

Posted by: midad [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 8, 2008 11:02 AM

I too am confused about why she is still there. I used to think she was a relatively intelligent and classy woman - I actually even liked Bill C and thought although what he did was wrong, he was still a good president (i.e. deficit) and a very very intelligent guy.
This amazes me. I find myself wondering what the hell these two idiots are doing? There is no way she can win - so why is she going out like this? Usually actions have a purpose. I don't know about the rest of you, but if I was her, I'd bow out gracefully and toss all my support to Obama. It would show her in a much better light than she currently is basking in.
She looks like a hostile harridan....

Posted by: basheert [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 8, 2008 11:50 AM

basheert, in order for her to bow out gracefully, it's going to take a little time. Her hard-core followers have so much antipathy for Barack that she will have to ease them into accepting him. there's just too much bad blood right now. If she drops out abruptly, while emotions are so high, the party will be torn apart, at least to some extent.

Much more classy for her to go out on a positive note, and swing her support to Obama in a way that causes her supporters to follow suit.

Posted by: bajasteve [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 8, 2008 02:54 PM

While I agree with you re: the necessity to unite the party, these games and comments that she's making serve no usefulness in uniting us under any circumstances.

I see sides of her that I don't like and I didn't see before. She is shrill....she is acting like a spoiled rotten loser and a bitch. (As a woman I feel I can say that). She is whining.

She could do herself such a great thing by being a classy lady and stepping out gracefully. Although of course it would be hurtful to her supporters, there's a lot of time between now and November to recoup her ability to help the party and him. She needs to be positive - and she could really stop acting like a whiny spoiled rotten child.

I used to support her, but I don't recognize that harsh nasty harridan she has become. I would have no choice but to vote for her if she is the nominee, but maybe she'd be a good President once Bill stops running her campaign.

Obama all the way!!!

Posted by: basheert [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 8, 2008 05:28 PM

Good theory - that she'll bow out gracefully - but I'm not buying it (although I did lease it for a while...). Check out the open letter to Obama that M.S. Bellows posted at HuffPo. Turns out that apparently it's at least partially Obama's fault that revotes weren't held in MI & FL and she wants ALL of the delegates from Michigan and Obama get NONE.
"Nevertheless, Clinton is urging not only that delegations from those two states be seated, but seated in full (and without Obama receiving any delegates at all from Michigan, where his name was not on the ballot). Wolfson described Clinton's performance in both states' primaries -- in which neither candidate overtly campaigned -- as "significant victories" and disagreed with suggestions that the delegations be seated at half-strength as a penalty for knowingly advancing their primaries earlier than Democratic Party rules allowed: "Our feeling is that the delegations should be seated in full, that they should have full votes" "commensurate with the results from those primaries." "
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/m.s.-bellows/post-indiana-clinton-camp_b_100708.html
See the open letter here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/m.s.-bellows/clintons-open-letter-to-o_b_100861.html

Doesn't sound particularly "bowing out gracefully" to me...

Posted by: ceu [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 8, 2008 06:14 PM

Sigh...well, I had hoped for a brief, shining moment that she would do the proper thing; too much to ask for, I guess.

Posted by: bajasteve [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 8, 2008 07:02 PM

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