Glurrrb.

I don't think Sarah read the constitution, good thing Joe did...

Please Gawd, don't let her be anywhere near decisions that send me to war.

whargarble.

Is it almost over?!?!

She's getting that kindeegarten voice again. OH GOD THAT MAKES ME CRAZY.

LOL - Not prepared for the "what's your real weakness". Just give the same speech!!

OK. I'm gonna say it. She's a cunt. And she just lost her cutesiness with the self depricating "lame" joke and accusing the others of being lame as well. Nobody got it? We got it alright, Mooselini.

And Joe just won the debate on the Cheney question.

whargarble.

Since when has Alaska been "the heartland of America?"

Since when has Alaska been "the heartland of America?"

Jane that's what I was trying to say. I'm getting too old for these transitions.

Joe just had a Hillary moment..but his was genuine..

No, no, no, no.....not maverick again!!! And after that wonderfulness by Joe....bitch ruined it.

OK. I'm gonna say it. She's a cunt. And she just lost her cutesiness with the self depricating "lame" joke and accusing the others of being lame as well. Nobody got it? We got it alright, Mooselini.

And Joe just won the debate on the Cheney question.

The man we need to leave!!!!! YES!!!

I think Joe just got passionate there

blah blah blah...bride of Chucky rambles oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...

Yes, Sarah, John McCain is the man we need to leave.

Woah, I didn't expect the tears to come from Joe tonight.

Go Joe! Go after the maverick shit! Go!

OK...if we're not supposed to acknowledge the past, then why would we want to switch to the "maverick team?" What's the point?! If we can't base decisions on past errors then why change? Ever? I think there's a crack in my skull.

I can't believe she brought up Lie-berman. Will someone recall him already???

Now pinch hitting for (forget)...mannnnnny moooosssaaaa

why does this keep coming to mind?!?

"Oh, he's very popular Ed. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, dickheads - they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude."

Hah! Nice Freudian slip by Palin about McCain - "the man we need to leave...um...lead."

blah blah blah...bride of Chucky rambles oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...

Cminri: I thought I imagined hearing it.

Jooooooooe!!!!

McShame is NO MAVERICK!

OK, so tomorrow she's gonna hit all the chat shows and be open for full spectrum Q&A, right?

The good news about tonight is that it will provide stark contrast for her inept communication skills starting tomorrow morning and continuing for the next 4 weeks.

AWESOME! Biden addresses the stacking of the Supreme Court! Go Joe!

Jebus, I'm gonna need a whole buncha g's to send to Sarah tonight, y'all. Start savin' 'em! I'll get 'em to her!

Up there in Alaska...right next to Russia!

I love him even more for calling out her exhaustive maverick bullshit.

I wish she'd go back to In, Alaska.

By the way, I totally agree, Carl. She is a cunt.

Woah, I didn't expect the tears to come from Joe tonight.

I think Ifill did a wonderful job, asked really good questions, this was moderated a lot better than the presidential debate

I hope they no longer question her ability to moderate again

Could we possibly live through 4 years of THAT VOICE????? MY EARS???!!!

blurting out random crap.

I think Joe just got passionate there

You guys are giving cunts a bad name...

OK...if we're not supposed to acknowledge the past, then why would we want to switch to the "maverick team?" What's the point?! If we can't base decisions on past errors then why change? Ever? I think there's a crack in my skull.

She doesnt like the MSM? I wonder why?!?!

Ha! My 8 yr old daughter just came in from listening in the other room, and she says "what did she say? It didn't make any sense."

Out of the mouths of babes.

My fave was when she said Mac was tapping her. Also when she said fucking ALSO A MILLION FUCKING TIMES!! Fight for your freedoms also.

I'd like to answer these tough questions?! SHE DIDN'T ANSWER ANY FUCKING QUESTIONS! And then blaming the MSM for filtering her! What a fucking joke!

My fave was when she said Mac was tapping her. Also when she said fucking ALSO A MILLION FUCKING TIMES!! Fight for your freedoms also.

Don't make me listen to this for four years, jesus.

"Average American family like mine." Let's see, where did I leave the keys to my private plane, since my family is just like Sarah Palin's? Oh shit, I forgot, I drive a 12-year-old Honda Civic.

I didn't understand a thing she said.

My fave was when she said Mac was tapping her. Also when she said fucking ALSO A MILLION FUCKING TIMES!! Fight for your freedoms also.

I guess Palin would be thinking about talking to her children's children about freedom. I mean, shit...she's only got what, like 5 months before she can do that?

she only invoked 2 Regans i think the requirement is 3.. doh!

also and such like

(no NC remarks! Address them to SC!)

Palin just said that she's never had to compromise because she's always "worked together" with others to get things done. Yeah. Uh. STUPID BITCH: THAT'S COMPROMISE. ASSHAT!

I completely agree Broadway!

Ha! Nice one Katin!!

HAHAHAHAHAHA Did I mention my favorite moment??? Geeeeeeeeesssssssss!!!!!!!

Phew. It's finally over.

And now the BBQ starts...

I cant believe they drag that poor baby out this late at night!

We've had 8 years of folksy. Let it die, people.

WTF is that BABY doing there????????????

What parent would think that is the right choice????

also and such as

Oh I see...the baby is there for the photo op! How stupid of me.

I know you are all going to try to take this away from her!!! You dirty devils!!!

I'm back!. I'm drunk. I have TWELVE PAGES OF NOTES!

WHO WANTS SOME?

A shitty parent would think it's just dandy to bring that baby there at this time of night.

Gosh-durn-it, but da bint wasn't pulling punches...

Her 'flag pin' was big enough to show up on the Hubble!

|sarcasm| Positively Veep material, yoo betcha! |/sarcasm|

I'm behind everyone - but I'm glad Joe finally let loose on this whole "maverick" thing. He's not a great debater - and the format absolutely sucks. SUCKS. Gwen did a lousy job moderating but I think that might have been the format.

QT

@Jane "as"--I can't keep that one in my head--it hurts.

Trig the Face Guard is back in case she trips off the stage.

And she passes the baby off to the 2nd youngest Palin. Is she hoping for the hair-lick photo op again? This woman has no shame.

Its BBQ TIME!!!

I think that one's named Circular Asphalt Surface, not Trig--that's the baby she's parading.

Good move on Biden's part - cute little girls on the stage to counter the Palins.

According to CBS... Biden won on points like 115 to 50 something.

Go Rachel!!!!

Ahh...it's my beloved Rachel. I know I've had a few tonight...but she is just beautiful. I want her to talk politics to me as we lay in bed together.

Rachel is repulsed. Good for her.

Shut up, Pat. Eat me, Pat.

Buchannan had a rack of BBQ ribs while watching the debate.

OMG! She wiped up the floor with Joe Biden from Pat Buchanan...Im going to puke!

Heh heh Kat has a girl crush

I hate Pat Buchanan. He's a cunt.

David Gregory is a fucking cock.

And there it is. Pat Buchanan - "Sarah Palin was sensational tonight. She wiped up the floor with Joe Biden." GOODNIGHT EVERYBODY!

No WHARGARBL. Am disappointed.
Lotsa flop sweat and obviously canned crap. Stage is too big...some folks just can't handle the throb of it all.
Biden won every round.

Pat's gonna have orgasm right there on the stage!

Her moronic debate style should've had Ifill standing up, bi**h-slapping her and screaming, "STAY ON THE M*****-F**KIG SUBJECT, YOU VACUUM-HEADED C**KBITE!"

Totally true, Jane. You are welcome to join us. There is enough brilliant Rachelness to go around. We can both bask in her geniosity. (I know...not real words)

A very effective communicator. Effective at communicating jack shit nothing. Stretch is nailing it. "I thought I was watching a spelling bee. Where you read each word out."

"Eyeeee don't go by the rules. Eyeeem going to look at the veoters". *pain*

Buchana needs Valiums and ear drops

Thank God for Rachel.

Bottom line...

The Dems still hate her..the Repugs still love her..

Rachel: boring but right, riveting but wrong

ummm I'll take right and boring (though i dont think he was) cuz i dont need my government to be like a TV movie of the week.

Kat, I really have never swung that way. Even for Rachel, though I'd love to have dinner with her.

What was the point of the debate if at the very beginning Palin said she wasn't going to answer the questions "the way the moderator wanted"? She gave herself permission to speak about anything she wanted, and by the way, when she did answer questions - like the Cheney thing - she got it wrong.

Love Rachel! "Boring and right, or exciting and wrong. Those are the choices."

Buchanan needs to get drafted and sent to Waziristan.

where's my fuckin' posts!

Biden is ahead in most of the polls I just looked at.

Carl that really clanged my dinger too. She framed it the way she wanted to and changed the rules when she felt like it.

OMG Penny Noonan is off her rocker on NBC, talking about how 'the night was all about Palin'.

Jane, I haven't either. But I think I'd be willing to make an exception for Rachel.

I seriously don't understand Pat Buchanan and his thought process

How was she sensational???????!?!?!?!?!

So Joe did everything that the pundits said he had to - not attack her, be respectful, etc., and now he's getting trashed for it??

Yay JM and the polls. So she didn't crack, she looked good. She cemented the image of McCain as pro-war, pro-19th century.

Mcat - she didnt fall flat on her face...that equals sensational!

Mike Murphy on Palin..."a nothingburger" Basically, Palin didn't start screaming about not supporting the bridge to nowhere on stage, so she did great.

I think Rachel just told on all of them and their "fairness". She said she was sick of people blathering on like Buchanan and then winking afterward.

I don't get how any intelligent lifeform can think the Rethuglicans can 'change' when it's THEIR fault that things are like they are.

But Failin' says that we should ignore the theives behind the curtain so we can elect the theives IN FRONT of the curtain. SO that's okay...

Kit Bond snuck his blackberry in and was very excited. Puhleazzze, horrible mental image here.

WTF is up with Harold Ford? "She held her own".

The GOP meme will now be "Joe's looking backwards". Sarah Lou said it and now it's a fact...

Umm...no, old fucker whose name I didn't catch, Biden talked a lot about John McCain. And talked about how your 2008 McCain is a lot like Bush.

Hey Bob can you post links to some polls to vote in? I remembered a few but not all.

Claire McCaskill is hitting her hard.

Am I the only one that fell their heart drop when Biden said they aren't for same sex marriage? I did know that on paper they are not for it but it really hurt to hear him say it. Part of me wants to believe that they really don't want to come out and say they are for it just because it isn't popular with a majority of people but they don't really feel that way. But maybe they really are against it. It makes me sad.

nothingburgerssss whargarble

Who would vote for her? One heart beat away from the presidency?

Who?

soooo. conscious decision by dems to avoid the rape kit issue. wow. kinda spineless. here, biden was the sponsor of the violence against women act, which penalized states by withholding federal funds if they didn't pay for rape kits. alaska state government passes law requiring that they be paid for by localities. wasilla under palin refuses. why not go after that? ifill should have brought it up, at a minimum, but biden could have at least raised the issue...

CCC, I know what you mean. They both (O'Biden) say they're for civil thingies, guaranteeing hospital visitation etc. But really, like Sarah says at least, why not let states decide? There's a good chance most states would allow/refuse to criminalize gay marriage.

Cupcake I think they can't come out and say it. They are for all rights being extended to gay couples but just not calling it marriage because it ruffles too many voter feathers.

Matthews thinks her presentation was great....I think he thinks she was winking at him. Was he part of the vetting process?

I know, cupcake....But at least there are some places in this country where sanity on same-sex marriage reigns. It may spread.

Enough!

Enough of this shit! I'm not sexist, but I wish women wouldn't say shit like, "She went toe-to-toe with him (Biden)." Ferraro says, she was proud of Palin, and hoped her grand daughters would be able to look back at this history.
Basically, doesn't matter what Palin represents, she is a WOMAN, and that is ALL that matters.

WTF???!

Let's cut the bullshit about being equal. We ARE different, but we ain't equal in some regards!
Example-
Have Roger Federer play Venus Williams...

BLOWOUT!!!

They are both the best players in tennis BUT they ARE different..
Nothin' wrong with that!

Matter a fact,
I LOVE WOMEN!*wink*

It seems feminist hate being women!
What's THAT all about?!

You guys frickin' rock. I've not been around much. My TV is not near my 'puter, so I watched the debate, and then checked out your ocmments. But you frickin' rock. Because you all say what I want to say, only better. I'm TIVO'ing the pundits, so I could read y'all's comments, which mean more to me. You guys GET IT. You guys say what I want to, only better. I had to do the bottle of wine, and man, this debate was movin' fast. But Joe frickin' rocked my world. Sarah is a frickin' asswipe, even with the bottle of wine. Now it's time to take TIVO off pause, and see what the frickin' right wing pundits on MSNBC have to say. I hope I don't break my TV with their bull shit. But I love you guys, really! I do!

Cupcake -

They are against defining it as marriage because each church decides who they will marry. It's a label thing that really gets to me every time it's said. It does hurt. The issue should be that equality exists for any recognized legal union - and the church should define who gets that union. The problem is that the definition of marriage that Obama/Biden use is NOT the general vernacular for the country - so they're playing a semantics game.

Pecos, they give feminism a bad name. I prefer the term "egalitarian."

I will blog about this at length.

I hope you all come by and read my shit.

PS, Pecos...NC in tha HIZZZZZZY

Yeah, as mayor she cut taxes. And left the town with more than $20 million of debt!
Good strategy there, Mayor Palin.

Yo Chris. Easy to be a popular Gov too when one of your biggest duties is refunding oil profits to your constituents.

Thank you, Bob Cesca, for throwing this shindig.

And you are a rollicking roomful of people. See you at the next debate...

Nite DP!

As Mayor of the Munchkin City....hell I didn't think they had taxes up there where the hockey moms roam?????

My bet is she goes back to saying stupid shit tomorow. That is unless they stick her back under a rock.

CNN pundits are actually saying Palin did good!

WTF?

If she did good a shit sandwich sounds yummy!

Must drink more!

@Jane-
*winks & kisses*
Piedmont in da haaaaaaaaaaaaaouse!

@NotaPolStat-
DON'T WATCH IT!!! AM I TOO LATE?! Did you destroy your TV?!

When she says hockey, does she mean like "shit" hockey or like a "big hocker" hockey?

'Night Dontpanic!

@AVI-
It's YOU, BOB, AND ELVIS!

Yuuuuuuup,
A MAN CRUSH! LOL!

We got NC covered from the mountains to the beaches!

G'nite all,
It was BIG FUN!

Like has already been pointed out for the past week..... the bar was so low that everyone is shitting themself that she didn't fart with an open mic.

Over the next couple days her answers, and non-answers, will be picked apart.

Yeah, Jane. They got something like $3600 each. Which is great, 'cause it's their land, their resources.
She's awful, just awful. Horrific.
It's so sad to know that the GOP has turned this election into a complete joke with their candidates. This is MY country - how dare they pull this shit on it??
Christ, I'm not even coherent any longer...

Does the phrase "Fund our Troops" make anyone else want to punch their television set in the throat?

"When she says hockey, does she mean like "shit" hockey or like a "big hocker" hockey?"

Well I'm thinkin' that when she say's hockey she mean's hockey, but it's hard to tell.

What ya' gotta' know is that there's lot's of kinds of hockey and some hockey isn't like other hockey ............ ya' know!

But I grew up around hockey and I know hockey but if I didn't know hockey I'd invade Pakistan.

Okay?

NC hizzzeee oh, yes, Chris, sorry, ahem. Yes, it is just scandalous, I agree. Heh chris incoherent still sounds scholarly compared to the rest of us

Ok that hockey makes sense unlike Palin hockey.

"She's awful, just awful. Horrific."

Worse than that!

I can't freakin' believe one pundit on the planet is saying she did good, but they are on CNN!

CNN = FOX without the steroids!

From CNN's poll online

Who fared better in the vice presidential debate?
Sen. Joe Biden 73%
Gov. Sarah Palin 24%
Neither 3%

hockey hockey nationalize paintball! Huzzah!

She said partisan chip.

Now is that like a new tater chip or what?

heh indeed

I could swear I just heard that Cutter say that Palin had a strategy.

Anyone that says Palin did good is a partisan hack.

KO: "Biden said the past is prologue. Palin said the past is irrelevant". That sums it up.
No time to play the blame game and point fingers. Don't look back. Don't look to the origins of problems to come up with the solutions.

someone please tell me when it will be time to place blame or will we be forevermore a nation with no accountability, no responsibility for anything horrendous thing done in our names?
Will the police no longer investigate crimes? Dead body on the floor, but we don't care how it got there or who is responsible for putting it there or making it dead - just deal with the burial and move on...

preemptive goodnite! until next debate! same bat time, same bat channel.Thx xxxooo Bob!

Did you guys notice that in focus group perception graph on CNN, the people would dial way down whenever Palin criticizes Obama? I found that quite interesting. Goes to show most people actually think Obama is right on most issues.

Once again, thanks, Bob.

BOB Miss the Iraq and such as was from SOUTH carolina (love, jane, Kat, Pecos, Tim, Dontpanic, and others!!!)

So long everybody...

I'm off to bed, too! Good night, all! It was fun and I'll see you 'round the site. Thanks again for hosting, Bob!

Goodnight, everyone.

Thanks, Bob!!!

Also.

Palin was that cunt hockey/soccer mom. I'm a mom of 4 -- hockey mom of 3 (including my oldest daughter) and soccer mom of 4. Palin was that disgusting "pit bull" mom who would bitch and moan when the ref called a foul against her kid, and who would cheer when her kid slammed ours against the boards for an injury. I cheered all the kids on all the teams for the good plays they made. She disgusts me as a mother and a human being. (Look how she uses her kids for photo-ops!) Buchanan and his ilk disugst me, also, with how they lionize her for her faults.

David Gregory and Andrea Mitchell need to go to a dermatolgist and get some "care" so they're not so angry at "normal" Americans who don't share their pizza faces.

Thanks, Cesca.

Here's the first cut: http://cousinavi.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/no-whargarbl-only-death/

What I want to know is, Why is government-run healthcare automatically considered to be a bad thing by these dickheads?

Gov't-run healthcare has done pretty well by McLame all his life, right? And gov't-run healthcare insurance has done very fucking wonderful by me. I have 4th-stage esophageal cancer, and my gov't-run health coverage (tricare) which is for, in my case, retired military folks, has never denied a single test, treatment program, medication, or anything else. they've spent tens of thousands of dollars on my treatment, and will probably end up spending somewhere around $100,000 or more - all without a single peep of negativity.

I'm just so fucking tired of people ragging on a program that the government (at least in my case - and in the cases of many, many other vets)has managed very, very well.

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