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October 02, 2008
Prediction For The Fight
Oliver believes the debate will be pretty much gaffe-free. I'm not so sure -- cable news will invent a gaffe, the same way they overplayed Senator Obama's complimentary remarks for Senator McCain (great politics given McCain's tone). So they'll invent at least one gaffe for Senator Biden. A look or a glance. Maybe a remark about Sarah Palin that they'll play up as being too harsh. Drama! Ratings!
On the other hand, Sarah Palin will be the shrill sarcastic Palin from the convention. I wouldn't put it past her to remark about Biden's hair plugs. It'll be stuff like the 'community organizer' remark and the 'listening to Biden's speeches since, like uh-doy, second grade' zinger. And she'll have at least one big Couric-style 'duh' moment. At least one. The debate is 90 minutes without a break -- the laws of probability dictate that between the pressure and the precedent, she'll mangle something big time.
However, the fact that she might not flub every answer will give the cable news people reason to praise her. She didn't totally screw it up. She's awesome! And those zingers! Fun-neee! That's the kind of crap that'll send me into a rage. Probably not the debate itself. The ignormus post-debate whole-cloth invention of stupid. That'll do it.
Buchanan will love her. Hannity will soil his pants. Matthews will compare her to a movie character. Alex Castellanos will punch Paul Begala. Begala will pummel Castellanos with a folding chair. Roland Martin will figure-four-leg-lock Bill Bennett. And Gloria Borger will accidentally swallow a coin.
Overall... Pain.
PS. I'll be liveblogging tonight of course. But I'll be using a gizmo called Cover It Live, so as to prevent another back-end techie meltdown. Naturally, you can still comment as per usual.
Posted By Bob Cesca | October 2, 2008 03:26 PM | DIGG ME!
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Thanks for working on the bottleneck problem, Bob. We seemed to have spasms of posting all at once and sent the server screaming.
Posted by: dontpanic23
at October 2, 2008 03:59 PM
Yup, she is just going to be a nasty and condescending wench like she was at the RNC. I am sick of hearing how Biden has to be "careful so he doesn't look like he's beating up on her." I mean, she is going to be really nasty tonight, but Biden can't be? Stupid. And if she can't take the heat she should get out of the kitchen. No matter what happens the Republicans are going to spin it that she won and they will demonize Biden. I am shocked they haven't already claimed victory even before the debate. They claimed victory over the presidential debate before McCain even announced he would show up!
I might need to be high for this one...
Posted by: CupcakeCult
at October 2, 2008 04:08 PM
I believe that any "gaffes" that Biden makes will be magnified x a billion and any that Palin makes will be minimized to be almost be almost microscopic.
Posted by: cminri
at October 2, 2008 04:09 PM
I believe Cover It Live requires comments to be approved by the moderator(s) (that would be you, Bob) before they are posted. So, Bob, be prepared to be overwhelmed, and everyone else, don't freak out when your comments don't appear immediately.
That said, it's a great way to get damn-near live updates; huffpo's was great during the pres debate.
Posted by: jbrons
at October 2, 2008 04:10 PM
Biden will win. Palin hasn't been able to form a coherent sentence as of late. Surely, she won't win a debate. More importantly, when she does manage to link coherent words together, they don't inspire confidence. Given our eoonomic calamady, and our war, and our health care and education systems, teetering on the brink of disaster, I can't imagine anyone wanting Mrs. Palin in a position of power. It's one thing to run a state a 1/3 of the size of the San Fernando Valley (a bedroom area in backyard of Los Angeles), and it's quite another to run a country once thought to be the most powerful in the world.
Posted by: Donna Barnett
at October 2, 2008 04:12 PM
>>I believe Cover It Live requires comments to be approved by the moderator(s) (that would be you, Bob) before they are posted.
NO, NO, NO! (not yelling at you, just being emphatic) Do *NOT* comment inside of the Cover It Live box. Comment like normal via TypeKey. I'll repeat that instruction inside the official liveblog thread.
Posted by: Bob_Cesca
at October 2, 2008 04:24 PM
Cupcake, I thought the same thing about being high! What a rare treat that will be.
I read a comment (somewhere else) that Palin isn't china and Biden isn't a bull. She says she wants to roll with the big boys, right up until it gets too hard, and then she runs to McDaddy.
Posted by: bearswife
at October 2, 2008 04:49 PM
Oh silly me. I meant to say "I will need to step outside for some fresh air" before and possibly during the debate. That is the euphemism of choice, isn't it?
Posted by: bearswife
at October 2, 2008 04:51 PM
I think it will either be a push or a "slight edge" to Sarah "Family Values" Palin in BBQ land.
Posted by: JG
at October 2, 2008 04:55 PM
...but as far as I am concerned there is now way Biden can lose unless he says something really stupid--The issues and the knowledge are on his side--but like the 1st Debate, Obama won, and the BBQ media did their best to call it a tie.
Posted by: JG
at October 2, 2008 04:57 PM
To do list:
1. Pop corn
2. Chill drinks
3. Drag out camping port-a-pot
4. Lay out clean drawers (just in case)
Posted by: Poleezz
at October 2, 2008 04:57 PM
Just a quick THANKS BOB for hosting a comment forum for the upcoming WHARGARBL that features a reasonable mix of insight, wit, fun, cutting viciousness...and MOST of all, puts up with ME.
Much love to all you Cescians.
Razors at the ready!
Posted by: cousinavi
at October 2, 2008 05:12 PM
Elvis Dingeldein's Fucking Prescient GuessOfaction Machine:
- The lack of a circus atmosphere with insane cheering and chanting and long breaks to ejaculate over the mantra Drill Baby Drill and then hoot-n-holler when Palin says something these assholes like will COMPLETELY take the piss out of her smirky, cocksure, Ain't I A Bitch attitude. This is not a prepared speech with a henpecked crowd of half-drunk rednecks, and the stunned sound of crickets rarely lends itself to awe-inspiring gestalt.
- Unless The Media™ is completely up McCain/Palin's bung, it won't be quick-cutting every 30 seconds to one of the adorable Little Towheads sucking on Trig's head or hurriedly handing him off to Todd "Subpoena? We Don't Need No Steenkeen Subpoenas!" Palin. The absence of a glowing circle of redneck family love beaming moose juice all over everything will cut into her basic appeal, which is that she's capable of taking a load of sperm up her ladyparts and converting them into mouths to feed, huzzah!
- Ninety minutes is a long, long, long time in politics. Watch her face in any of the Couric interview sniplets: This woman has to clamp down so hard on her How Dare Yous that you could crock-pot a 12-pound roast in her underpants in 6 minutes. (And what red-blooded young man in Alaska hasn't already done that to the good Governor, huh? Huh guys? Am I right?) Elvis Dingeldein's Fucking Prescient GuessOfaction Machine predicts some serious flop-sweat at the 35-40 minute mark.
- She's going to be a Two- or Three-Trick Pony all night. She'll cycle through them randomly -- In What Respect, Gwen?; This Great Country [Fill In Obsequious Non-Sequitor]; If John McCain and I Are So Blessed [Fill In Godly Reward Here] -- but by the fifth or sixth rotation, even the mouth-breathers will be impatient for something substantive. She's simply got to go for sytle over substance tonight, and 90 minutes is too long a stretch for an amateur politician to dazzle a crowd.
And if Gwen Ifill has any balls, she'll damn the public perception of Liberal bias, do the Nation and its Security a favor, and press Palin to give actual answers and not fucking mindless fluff. As much as I detest Katie Couric, she at least tried to get straight, unspun answers.
Posted by: Elvis Dingeldein
at October 2, 2008 05:26 PM
cable news will invent a gaffe
No one sitting at home watching saw The Sigh of Al Gore's. That was something that was pumped up unrepentingly by the media, which now blames The Sigh for Gore losing a debate that he won hands down.
Posted by: ceu
at October 2, 2008 05:43 PM
This is not a prepared speech with a henpecked crowd of half-drunk rednecks, and the stunned sound of crickets rarely lends itself to awe-inspiring gestalt.
That's a fucking sentence!
Yes it is a prepared speech. Regardless of the question, it will become three rehearsed things:
1. I just think Washington needs some small town common sense down there, you betcha what!
2. Joe Biden and Barack Obama are weak-kneed librul elitists who haven't got the foggiest idea how to keep America safe or what real small town Americans need - lower taxes, good jobs, and to make sure those dirty foreign Muslim terrorist threat for our very survival... God-fearin', gun-owin', Bible CLINGIN' and proud of it!
3. John McCain is a Maverick and I know about energy!
The kind of maverick, new energy, pork-cuttin', roll up our sleeves and get'er done sorta can do American know-how that can durn tootin' set things in Washington a'right!
Man. WTF is BIDEN gonna do about THAT?
Posted by: cousinavi
at October 2, 2008 05:48 PM
You're harshing my groove, Avi. You need to lighten the fuck up, you Cockney git.
Heh. Heh. "Cockney."
Posted by: Elvis Dingeldein
at October 2, 2008 06:09 PM
Elvis...I'm in Asia. Staying up all night drinking rum and cooking a nice WHARGARBL breakfast. Got my pipe handy and my hope all geared up.
But I really think Moose Mama has a ball bustin' Miss Congeniality plan and Biden's stuck with all the things he's NOT allowed to do.
Did you catch my prayer?
Our Father, who art in Heaven,
WHARGARBL be thy name,
The debate come,
The truth be done,
In politics as it ought to be.
Give us this day our daily WHARGARBL!
and forgive Sarah her incompetence
as we forgive those who nominated the dizzy flip.
Lead us not into another GOP administration,
but deliver us from McMumblefuck,
for thine is the Republic,
the power and the glory,
unless you let McBush trash it completely,
forever and ever,
Gesundheit.
Posted by: cousinavi
at October 2, 2008 06:26 PM
You make me feel very stupid, Mr. The Cousin Avi. I'm not at all in your league.
Also, WHARGARBL!
Posted by: Elvis Dingeldein
at October 2, 2008 06:32 PM
Oh, sure. My fault. Like I wasn't paranoid enough.
Posted by: cousinavi
at October 2, 2008 06:37 PM
Great points, ELVIS, that this won't be BBQ Media's usual "presentation" of Palin and her adoring fans and gratuitious family shots.
Posted by: NotAPollStat
at October 2, 2008 06:47 PM
It's 7:13 AM in Taiwan. I'm starting to think about pancakes.
The debate is less than two hours away.
WHARGARBL, Jemimah and mmmm bacon for breakfast. Will have to stop drinking for a bit - rum is never good with breakfast.
I can't help but wonder...d'ya think Sarah Palin is lookin' for a green room quickie with The First Dude? Ya gotta think the tension of the moment has Miss Congeniality a little worked up, eh?
Was that sexist?
Who knows? Maybe Biden's gettin' some, too.
Ha. Sorry for that.
Posted by: cousinavi
at October 2, 2008 07:09 PM
Hey Cous...maybe you oughta get a little yerownself. You sound a little tense too. BTW it didn't sound sexist just horney...he he he!!
Posted by: Poleezz
at October 2, 2008 07:51 PM
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