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February 3, 2009

Take Them Seriously, Dammit!

I mean, the Republicans are very serious people who should be taken very seriously!

When GOP congressional aides gather Tuesday morning for a meeting of the Conservative Working Group, Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher -- more commonly known as Joe the Plumber -- will be their featured guest. This group is an organization of conservative Capitol Hill staffers who meet regularly to chart GOP strategy for the week.

Taking orders from Rush Limbaugh. Championing a know-nothing hoople for vice president. Making up fake CBO reports. Generally screwing up the world. Democrat Party. And now, taking advice from a skinheaded cartoon character.

By all means, let's include their awesome ideas about the economic meltdown. What could go wrong?

Adding... Seriously?

Wurzelbacher, who became a household name during the presidential election, will be focusing his talk on the proposed stimulus package.

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Posted By Bob Cesca | February 3, 2009 9:08 AM

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The best part is that JTP is going to be speaking about what he thinks of the bailout bill.

Seriously.

no... seriously.

Posted by: MatthewN at February 3, 2009 10:13 AM

I didn't think it was possible for the Republicans to become even more of a caraciature of themselves.

Posted by: Ann at February 3, 2009 10:14 AM

How's my spelling?

Posted by: Ann at February 3, 2009 10:15 AM

So everything that sank John McCain during the last election, the Republicans are flocking to:

Joe the Plumber.
Sarah Palin.
Out of touch on the economy.

Because maybe if they close their eyes and wish hard enough, all that stuff will become totally awesome. Otherwise, I have no clue.

Posted by: Redmond at February 3, 2009 10:25 AM

HAHAAHAAHA!!!! I can't wait to see the video on this! Maybe he'll say something stupid like, "We can save money just by stopping the grants that are keeping Jessica Simpson on the government cheese."*

[*This is not a weight joke, it is a sardnoic statement regarding the previous post.]

Posted by: Broadway Carl at February 3, 2009 10:26 AM

*sardonic

Posted by: Broadway Carl at February 3, 2009 10:27 AM

When is his meeting with Obama?

Posted by: Travis D at February 3, 2009 10:50 AM

HA! Good one, Travis.

Posted by: Broadway Carl at February 3, 2009 11:39 AM

and the wingnuts would have us believe that we just dont get it.we dont get it because we're ny times reading elitists.they think people hate sam the joe the plumber because hes a "regular" guy.im a regular guy.i only know regular guys.i dont hate regular guys.i hate enormous twats.

Posted by: 24hourjack at February 3, 2009 11:41 AM

Damn... I mixed up the bailout bill and the stimulus bill again.

At least Bob got it right.

Posted by: MatthewN at February 3, 2009 11:42 AM

WTF? The Limbaugh Republican Party are hacks, crooks, fools, liars, con-men, but first & foremost comedians of unparalleled heights.

For the 58 million that voted for McSame the joke is on YOU!

I mean really, Limbaugh endorses Palin & the GOP wants "advice" from Joe the PLUMBER!

This is comedy gold, but toxic poison for our political system!

Wake-up DITTO_HEADS!!!!

Posted by: exoevolution at February 3, 2009 12:10 PM

Hey, I always consult my plumber when I need economic advice and suggestions for legislations.

I also go to a hairdresser for heart bypass surgery.

When I need legal advice, I talk to my doctor.

When my pipes leak, I call in an economist.

The Repubelickin Party - Where expertise is a liability.

Also explains The Palin.

Posted by: SillyGit at February 3, 2009 12:26 PM

FUCK !!!!!!!!!!!! There.. I feel better now...

Posted by: willpen at February 3, 2009 12:28 PM

“And now, taking advice from a skinheaded cartoon character”

Noted Democratic skinhead and ‘Obama for America’ member James Carville was unavailable for comment.

Taking advice from Joe the Plumber?

That would be nearly as ridiculous and bone-headed as letting a known tax cheat and direct participant (as president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York) in the economic meltdown be put in a position of enforcing taxes and crafting economic policy.

Posted by: Dave in SoCal at February 3, 2009 12:32 PM

That would be nearly as ridiculous and bone-headed as letting a known tax cheat and direct participant (as president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York) in the economic meltdown be put in a position of enforcing taxes and crafting economic policy.
Sadly, no.

The person you're refering to may be a slime, an ass, and the wrong person for the job.
However, it could be argued that they have some education, understanding, and experience in the field that they'll be talking about.

Joe?

Not so much.

Posted by: MatthewN at February 3, 2009 12:45 PM

However, it could be argued that they have some education, understanding, and experience in the field that they'll be talking about.

Sure it could.

But regarding competence? As you say, not so much. I mean, how many millions of Americans (many of them Republicans even!) seem to have the modest ability to pay their taxes on time every year?

The person you're referring to may be a slime, an ass, and the wrong person for the job.

And this is the guy that President Hopenchange is asking to be the freakin' Secretary of the Treasury. Seriously? What's next? Bill Ayers for Secretary of Education?

And yet, our esteemed host points and hoots at Republicans for inviting JTP to speak at a meeting and sarcastically says that this means they should be "taken very seriously".

Rangel, Dodd and Frank.
Geitner, Daschle and now Nancy Killefer.

At what point should we start taking the Democrats seriously?

Posted by: Dave in SoCal at February 3, 2009 1:31 PM

Didn't Sam the Joe 'forget' to pay his own taxes?

Posted by: theo at February 3, 2009 1:35 PM

Dave,
You're making a false equivalence here.

There is quite a diference between experienced, knowlegable people who have made bad personal/policy decisions and a person with little to no knowlege or experience on a subject.

If I ask someone who made bad decisions to opine on something, at least I'm still getting the benefit of their preofessional knowledge and experience (flawed as it may be).

If I ask someone with no knowledge or experience to opine on something, what am I getting?

Posted by: MatthewN at February 3, 2009 1:51 PM

And yet despite all this, the GOP is still considered the "adult" and more "serious" party by our esteemed BBQ media. We. Are. Doomed.

Posted by: Lee B. at February 3, 2009 1:53 PM

@Dave in SoCal -

ah, a Bill Ayers reference. How totally hilarious and original. You know, just because the average Republican's idea of debating issues has devolved into flinging their own shit and Pee Herman-style "I know what you are, but what I'm I?"-type name-calling, doesn't mean the rest of us need to be dragged into it. Grow the fuck up.

Posted by: Lee B. at February 3, 2009 2:04 PM

If I ask someone who made bad decisions to opine on something, at least I'm still getting the benefit of their preofessional knowledge and experience (flawed as it may be).

But Obama's not just asking Geitner's "opinion", is he? He wants him to be directly involved in crafting economic policy. He wants to put him in charge of the Treasury Department for cryin' out loud.
He wants this person, who only bothered to pay $43,000 in back taxes (while managing nonetheless to claim reimbursement for taxes that he never paid) once he was in line for nomination, to be responsible for enforcing tax laws and policy that he himself ignored until it was inconvenient to do so.

Tell us how this "professional" used his "knowledge and experience" to stop the economic meltdown when he was in a direct position (as president of the NY Fed) to do so.

God save us all from such "professionals" in government.

Contrast that with a Conservative Working Group who asks JTP to come speak at a meeting. Note that he is "speaking at a meeting" as opposed to "sitting down with them and helping them craft strategy of policy".

Posted by: Dave in SoCal at February 3, 2009 2:08 PM

You know, just because the average Republican's idea of debating issues has devolved into flinging their own shit and Pee Herman-style "I know what you are, but what I'm I?"-type name-calling, doesn't mean the rest of us need to be dragged into it. Grow the fuck up.

It's called sarcasm, Lee. Look it up.

And your wailing about poo-flinging and name-calling is hilarious.

Read back through Bob's post above and point out for us where the "serious debate" is hiding.

Posted by: Dave in SoCal at February 3, 2009 2:14 PM

>> Read back through Bob's post above and point out for us where the "serious debate" is hiding.

See, but that's the point Dave. The only ones who think this might be serious are the wingnuts. Having Joe the fucking Plumber address their meeting? Ha! And he's going to opine on the stimulus package? Ha! No, no, there's nothing serious here for us to debate. We are simply laughing and making fun of the maroons.

Posted by: Alan4s at February 3, 2009 2:20 PM

Dave,
Let's say I get it.
Fine. Gietner is the devil. He forgot to pay taxes, he singlehandedly destroyed the economy of 47 different nations. He has become Death, destroyer of worlds... the earthly avatar of Cthulu himself.

Got it.

Now... explain to me the benefit of having Joe the Plumber (remember him? The subject of the original blog post?) speak at a Conservative Working Group about the proposed stimulus package.

Posted by: MatthewN at February 3, 2009 2:21 PM

Bob,

That "skinheaded" adjective, that was JUST an adjective, right? Funny thing with words, huh? You can make someone sound racist with just the slightest touch.

So tell me Bob, why do you hate bald people so much?


Posted by: politicalpartypooper at February 3, 2009 2:21 PM

explain to me the benefit of having Joe the Plumber (remember him? The subject of the original blog post?) speak at a Conservative Working Group about the proposed stimulus package.

That's a great question, Matthew. Dave in SoCal? ... Dave? ...Where did he go? Awww... you scared him away.

Posted by: Broadway Carl at February 3, 2009 2:48 PM

Well, I don't know about Bob, but I HATE bald people! Making me feel guilty about my full head of hair, having to sit through hair restoration commercials. Goddamn baldies!

Posted by: Broadway Carl at February 3, 2009 2:50 PM

Dave in SoCal wrote:
"And your wailing about poo-flinging and name-calling is hilarious.

Read back through Bob's post above and point out for us where the "serious debate" is hiding."

ah, so NOW we return back to the original topic after you derail it to talk about nominees and their tax problems. So, "Joe the Plumber." How could we dare mock him and the GOP's willingness to continue elevating him to such esteemed status and respect?

Ok here's my little attempt at some sarcasm:

How could we NOT respect the words and opinions of a guy who calls himself "Joe the Plumber," but who's name is Sam and who's not even a licensed plumber?

How could we not cherish the wisdom and foresight of a guy who is concerned about having to pay 3% more in taxes on his small business that makes over $250,000 a year, even though he doesn't HAVE a small business, let alone one that makes over $250,000 a year? (or who has his own little issues with paying his taxes)

How could we not respect and honor the views of a guy who's convinced that Obama becoming president will mean the "death of Israel"? Or that journalists "shouldn't be allowed to cover war" and that the media "should be abolished from, uh, you know, reporting."?

You know, you guys on the right can keep thinking that a guy like this just gets under our skin, and therefore you should just keep elevating him. But at the end of the day, we're just laughing at him and at you. Keep it up. You guys are going to be in the wilderness for a long time.

Posted by: Lee B. at February 3, 2009 3:29 PM

That "skinheaded" adjective, that was JUST an adjective, right? Funny thing with words, huh? You can make someone sound racist with just the slightest touch.

Aw lawds

Posted by: Travis D at February 3, 2009 3:53 PM

i am giddy over this! now all they need is someone who can "heal the gay" and they could really make things happen for US!!!

Posted by: gypsy at February 3, 2009 6:09 PM

Joe the Plumber here....No honey, I can't make it to lunch today. I've got some pea traps to unclog then I have to help rush extricate his head from his ass again. Then fox wants me to report on some stuff, also as.

Posted by: rick390 at February 3, 2009 6:26 PM

So it's Orange County isn't it SoCal Dave?

Orange County being the foaming and steaming hotbed and capital of neoconservatist/corporatist/fascist/Christofascist lunatics of the entire United Corporations of America.

Neoconservatism:

Everyone has the freedom to think exactly like I do. Or else.

We are social conservatives. No being gay allowed. All gays will be shot. Worship The Jeebus Baby or you will be shot.

You are a human the moment dad came. Doctors providing abortions will be shot.

We are not fiscal conservatives. In fact, we spend the taxpayers' dollars like drunken sailors, and you'll really love the shit we spend it on. (None of it may help the citizen of our fascist state.)

Tax dollars may only be paid to corporations that donated to our campaigns.

Social services must be completely dismantled.

Only the poor need pay taxes.

Change copyright laws to benefit our corporatist buddies in the media cartel so that they can totally fuck consumers.

Waste all of the federal budget on massive pork barrel items such as the B1 Bomber, MX missles, the Strategic Defense Initiative, and totally unneccessary wars in the gulf. (The B1 Bomber has never flown a combat mission. It was obsolete before it went into production. That's why Carter canceled it.)
But, not one penny for New Orleans.

Yeah. Those Orange County folks have such a great agenda. Wonderful Patriots. Great Americans.

Fascist Pigs, all of them.

Posted by: SillyGit at February 3, 2009 9:19 PM

SillyGit..People are being shot for being gay/having abortions? Don't be ridiculous.

Posted by: Chris at February 6, 2009 12:12 AM



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