May not be the right thread, but I can't keep this to myself:

http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009/04/sarah-palins-pick-for-alaskas-attorney.html

Just go. Palin's AG pick thinks husbands can rape wives.

Similar, yes, but there's one big difference: Kane's a better actor than Glenn Beck could ever dream of being.

Beck's a friggin nut, OK? America laughs at his antics. Bob, you are becoming an obsessive compulsive with the guy. Let's Move On.

Alopecia - the analogy was that Glenn Beck was 'Stone Cold Steve Austin'. But seeing as you mentioned it, Kane and Glenn Beck might have something in common in that they both came from troubled pasts and are "broken" men as Marc Maron articulates here
http://punditfight.blogspot.com/2009/03/maher-olbermann-levin-maron-shep-smith.html

Nitesurfer - agreed on the blogosphere's Beck fixation. I am too. I this morning found myself amazed at the amount of ink on this guy. Maybe the "let's put Republicans between a rock and a hard place by supporting Rush" meme has now transferred to the new Defacto leader - Beck.

nitesurfer wrote:

>>>Bob, you are becoming an obsessive compulsive with the guy. Let's Move On.

Yeah, we should just ignore the wingnuts and hope they go away. Fighting is too hard and boring.

Don't be a wuss, nitesurfer. These guys have to be discredited and mocked until no one takes them seriously anymore. Walking away from a fight -- any fight -- is a HUGE mistake. Sorry. I'm not letting this guy get away with spreading his bullshit.

The more that jackasses like Beck and Limbaugh are exposed as moraly bankrupt fakes the better. The republican party is basically being spoken for by those two guys.

Even if the heads of the RNC dont like it, by not denouncing them theirself, they are basically enabling them to speak for the party. So everytime these guys spout nonsense, its basically the party spouting nonsense.

PunditFight: I stand corrected (someday I'll learn to pay more attention). However, I stand by my assessment that a pro wrestler's a better actor than Beck. Not to mention saner.

Look, Bob, Speck is a wanna-be. He was a wanna-be on HLN, and he's still a wanna-be on FNC. He's being promoted like crazy by the network and those supposedly looking to ridicule him, but he's still a wanna-be with no noticeable purpose (which says nothing, really, because they all are useless).

We are falling for FOX's ploy. We are paying this repugnant and bland dingbat con men mind that we cannot afford to waste in this new century. These idiots get sloppy when you pay them no mind. They get sloppy and they say or do silly things that get them in trouble with sponsors. If we really want the bastard off the air (I don't care one way or the other at this point), we must make him squirm for a lack of attention, while increasing his idiotic rhetoric. From the sounds of it, you all are the scared ones. Scared that Beck really does have some sort of influence. I tell you, if he does, we are doing nothing more than furthering said influence by highlighting his dopey FNC antics. He wants to play out his sick little fantasies on the air and pretend to pour gasoline on an eager buffoon, let him. He wants to put that nonsense on Obama, let him. He wants to encourage morons to "stand up" for whateverthefuck is bothering them in politics (like Republicons being rendered irrelevant by their own antics), let him. Speck will always be a wanna-be, like McCain will always be a weasel, Cantor will always be a snot, and the Republicans, in general, will be seen for the party of con men, corporate kiss-asses, and Tomfools. Speck is a nobody compared to Gingrich & Crew. Those are the morons we need to really take seriously. Frauds like Speck are ignoramuses entertaining malcontents that are willfully lost, if not criminally insane. We defeated these assholes last year, and we will continue to do so if we're smart. I do not believe that poking fun at milquetoast con men of Beck's caliber is smart. Ask yourself this: who made fun of Hannity when he was first starting out. All these dingbats are from the chickenshit radio circuit. They are all a bunch of wanna-be Don Imus and Howard Sterns.

These dumb FOX bastards are very vulnerable. The thing is, you have to first discredit the otherwise un-noteworthy network goons i.e. Juan Willaims and the op-ed dorks, and a few of the news anchors (not just the commentators). See, the con men sellouts like Speck, O'Lielly, and Vanity hide behind these milquetoast flakes that are on the daytime shift. We know FOX's steeze. It's trash journalism, nothing more. Not simply propaganda, but seriously the junk no one with a life would give a fuck about. Ignoramuses that live in mental bubbles, shielding themselves from the reality of this nation, if not the world, and the times in which they live. That is the REAL FNC audience, never mind those that simply browse the channel. Those folks are not prone to perusing a site such as this. Who's all this Speck-coverage for, really?

You all think on that.

Don't think I'm knocking you completely, I'm just saying...you acknowledge Speck's irrelevance each time you claim he has a "punch-me face." To take a dork with a punch-me face seriously is folly. The fucker ought to be having flashbacks to when he was getting knocked upside the head with dodgeballs when he was little, not having clear and rational thinkers, even the often facetious ones of your caliber, taking his dork-assed influence seriously.

Lexaburn wrote:

>>>We are falling for FOX's ploy. We are paying this repugnant and bland dingbat con men mind that we cannot afford to waste in this new century.

Sorry. Wrong. We can walk and chew gum at the same time.

>>>you acknowledge Speck's irrelevance each time you claim he has a "punch-me face."

I mention his "punch-me face" in order to mock his ridiculous hamming for the camera -- his performance. If he were irrelevant, I wouldn't be writing about him, but he's got 2 million viewers on any given day and that's, you know, a lot.

yeah, let's ignore people who are spreading seeds of hate, voilence, forming an army of stupid with guns and god's will because the past, even two weeks, has shown that nobody takes their words serious RIGHT?!?!

No, actually, I'm not wrong, Bob.

With each new posting, you all seem to take this clown more and more serious. You may not see it yourself, but some of us do. An obvious clown is ALWAYS obvious. Never mind walking and chewing gum. I'm talking about taking the bozo's stage act seriously. I know we can poke fun at the obvious jackass, but do we really think Speck's rhetoric is actually influential? On Bill Maher's show not too long ago, the lovely Kerry Washington highlighted the tact to take with this ignoramus. She mentioned his acting coach or some shit like that. Takes an actress to see through a conman's act, and call him on it. To take Speck's antics seriously. C'mon, man! He isn't being crazy, he's being a goddamned cornball hack. It's the Republicon squares in government hiding behind the theatrics of these imbeciles that we need to worry about. Some of these assholes in government take the sentiments to heart, and base their ideaology around placating the intellectual frauds on the radio. It is the political equivalent of peer pressure. THIS from a bunch of fucking DISC JOCKEYS!

Have these Republicon reps have any shame? Hmm, answered my own question there, didn't I?

I know you're doing the right thing going after this Speck idiot, but I'm just informing you that not everyone is taken with Speck in the way you are. I know ignoring him goes against our collective need to call out bullshit (hence my being here), but the tact can backfire, is what I'm saying. Speck should be called out for the hack actor that he is, not taken seriously as a commentator. He's not really the one inspiring these morons to go out and shoot up shit. He's a performer. No different from the Shamwow guy (just not as compelling to watch). The minute you highlight that is when he begins to take subconscious responsibility for the things he says. Taking Speck's act seriously only leads to these assholes claiming the 1st Amendment and stupid shit like that. Really, whatever their benefactors tell them to claim. It's the same bullshit I viewed O'Lielly and Vannity doing on FNC when it was starting up. Wimpbaugh, too. People took these frauds seriously, and now look where we are. Who cares how many imbeciles watch and listen to them on a regular basis. We outnumber them in every way, as evidenced by the fact that the cons stole two elections in the 21st century.

Yes, they are all hams. Supposedly millions of people watch American Idol, yet at my place of work, no one watches that show on a regular basis, if at all. I suppose what I'm saying is that they're not enough people out here calling a spade a spade. O'Lielly is a preening milksop way past-his-prime playing an assertive watchdog on TV. Fuck him!

A week or so ago, G4 cutie Layla Kalaiegh went on Vannity's program and pulled up his skirt and that of his little self-hating lapdog when she asked them about being virgins. Vannity got all defensive, mentioning his "two children," and the loudmouthed house negro piped down with his little ad hominem rant against liberals and the black community. It was a thing of beauty, really. That's the style we aught to take with these idiots on their own program. Vannity was trying to bully her in that typical FNC style, and she shut his punk ass down that time. Another time was when Malik Shabazz and Robert Gibbs came on and revealed Vannity's latent support for Neo-Nazis. The moron stammered like Porky Pig during those moments. I don't believe Vannity is a Neo-Nazi. However, he's a con man stoking their fires. There was a time when Vannity was not taken seriously before he got that show on FNC and people started promoting the bastard - through ridicule. Same goes for all the conmen in the Republican party. Vanity is a chowderhead too vainglorious to be an idiot savant, though he tries. I recall hearing of the twerp WAAAY back, and he was nothing more than an imbecile that attempted to sound like the dude he was filling in for. Imagine another Muppet frog filling in for Kermit on The Muppet Show. When Hannity got that show on FOX, I was one of those asking folks how long could FNC possibly last with bozos like him. They stood to ridicule him, as well, knocking his vain prick delivery and his obvious script-reading. Now look at the asshole. See, a whole lot of Liberals, Democrats, Progressives and the like took the blockhead asshole seriously because those behind the network would invite them to that sham H&C show. The first fucking thing I'd have done if I was ever invited on that program is call out Hannity AND Colmes for being a couple of perpetrators of a fraud, Jon Stewart-style. This Vannity imbecile actually credits himself for declaring journalism dead. As if millions weren't declaring the same thing a decade before this moron uttered his first words on the airwaves. See, what taking an conman imbecile seriously gets you? The hubris on this Vannity moron is incalculable. Too many people take these intellectual pissants seriously because they're on televised programs and such. It's the money behind them influencing some of these folks in the swine media, I just know it.

Back in the day, there was no mention of these con-servative clowns. They were out there, but no one gave a fuck because no one took them seriously as commentators. Until Wimpbaugh arrived. He was an obvious fraud from jump. A slightly overweight windbag. I was a little kid back then, watching all these talk shows and the like with my older brothers, and we all saw through Wimpbaugh's act. There were a bunch of frauds going around on TV.

Raggedy Ann Coulter was on C-Span hocking her new book not too long ago, and she said she encouraged young conservatives to get into the media instead of looking for actual productive work. See, what I'm saying? This is how they plan on overtaking us again. We cannot allow this con game to resurface. We've got these assholes on the ropes, and they're seeking to rise from the grave. The next generation ought to have trouble recalling a Republicon party, not having to put up with an army of swine media dorks that resemble preening FNC idiots. That is their plan in a nutshell. Like I said, the obvious blowhards like Speck hide behind the "legit news anchors."

I'm going off-track, aren't I?

I'm just trying to say that it would appear that the Speck is popular with or without our help, but do we really need to track every stupid thing the idiot does or says? I mean, he's a well-known buffoon, right?

Last night on Bill Maher, Gore Vidal had a well-worn, but very appropriate line about what he thought about Sarah Palin. That's how I feel about Speck (not Palin, however - that women is gold, man). Speck IS irrelevant to ANY political discussion. Shit, we might as well ask Ronald McDonald about his stance on videogame violence influencing Klebold and Harris. Speck's eagerly promoting himself as a mascot. Never mind his shenanigans. I get why you highlight him, but just know that some of us are not amused by the idiot. That's all I'm saying.

I do like the fact that you're highlighting that he's a intellectual thief, as well. Like O'Lielly with his ambush crews, Beck gets his antics by watching other TV programs, and stealing the content. In the end, the copycats pale in comparison to the genuine article. That is FNC's entire style. Like I said, it is trash journalism. D-grade. The fact that millions watch the swill simply says that there are millions of the willfully ignorant.

I'm just trying to give you a glimpse as to where I'm coming from, Bob. You know I'm not trying to change anyone here, right? Just giving you an honest assessment of how I view promoting frauds like Beck, that's all.

I'm a bit groggy from work, so forgive the verbosity and rambling nature of this post. This is just a mere disagreement of tact, nothing more.

Peace.

And before anyone mentions it, I know the cop killer was pimping out a Glenn Beck recording to justify his posture. That's a common ploy these malcontents pull in order to someone else to share the blame. Klebold and Harris pulled this when they were making their little video, dressing up in all black like they were in The Matrix, and playing with swords like they were Highlanders. The Virginia Tech shooter sent those silly pictures out showing how aggressive he wanted to be because he knew someone would show them off, thereby justifying his cry for attention. It happens all the time. I remember when Chris-damned-Matthews eagerly showed those pictures on the air while interviewing a family member of one of the victims of the massacre. It was absolutely shameful! He was bragging about how NBC obtained the pictures "EXCLUSIVELY!" and whatnot. You could hear the woman he was interviewing gasp loudly and everything. It was something else. You don't forget shit like that EVER! Can you blame me for finally ditching my cable television after witnessing that and other such nonsense?

Anyway, I do not believe Speck or an other individual dork is a real influence, the whole damned cable "news" culture is the real culprit.

@lexaburn, we're not taking him seriously, it's the one's that do take him seriously that we're worried about.

Lexaburn I take it you have a blog, with all that energy it would be sill if you didn't.

I agree for the most part with what you're saying, instead of actors and clowns I see them as pro-wrestlers. At the end of the day it's becoming showbiz, an exercise in making money and self aggrandizement. No real sacrifice taking real risks on principle. Just like in wrestling any controversy, feud, backlash, movement, atrocity for or against them just gets fed back as content into the programming without any real accounting of the implications. Self reflection etc...
It's all entertainment.

PunditFight - Nah, I have no blog. I just had some spare time this morning to ramble.

I like where your head is at on this. Indeed, the talk radio goons are exactly like those "pro" wrestlers, especially the heels' managers. Bobby Heenan, Mr. Fuji, Jimmy Hart, Slick and such. The old school dudes from the 80s, I mean. I'm not down with the new stuff, but I do know Kane. They ruined his character when he took off the mask.

Thruwithbuzz - The people that take Beck seriously are far gone. They are rubes, they're just to dense to know it. If we're discussing their penchant for throwing temper tantrums with guns and whatnot, sure, you can be worried about them. I won't join you on that front. If it's pertaining to politics, what rational thinking person listens to this Speck idiot and votes according to his sentiments?

Two million people supposedly watch Speck on FNC, according to Mr. Cesca. So? Is that all? Ants. That's what they are. Ants. Ants congregating in the corner of a playground. Only -excuse me - sissies and little girls are intimidated by how an ant mob looks. Two million boneheads watch this clown carry on everyday. How many people are there here in this nation? FUCK that two million. If they were drowning and I had a boat, I'd toss them a a life preserver, but there ain't no damned way I'd have them taking up space on my vessel. Sorry, but that's how I see it. These FOX viewers are gone. We can't get rid of them, so they just need to stay the fuck away from people like me. Don't discuss politics around me, don't think I want to be anywhere near them. This goes for Republicans, as well. Bigoted or not, I can't stand these fucking people any longer. They are a collective a oblivious dorks, brats, and squares that believe the world revolves around what they only perceive - in all their limited capacity - are ailments in our society. They are scum to me.

Excuse my brashness, but the fact that we coddle these moronic, backward-assed people vexes me.

America is turning into one big asylum where us rational thinkers have to look after these lost souls that continue to vote Republicon without seeing that the party is absolute and total bereavement and depature from actual politics. I see dorks on talking treading carefully not to offend these fucking frauds. I see Democrats walking on eggshells around these morons, if they're not trying to BE semi-Republicon themselves. The GOP is a party of social elitists and rampant tricksters looking to live off of the ignorant public. Their posture is as plain as day. They're not mere politicians. Hell no!

How dare these assholes think they can fool us all again with their constant stream of hypocritical bullshit. They are an anachronism and need to be put out of our misery once and for all. Fuck 'em!

I'm hot off of watching a video of yet another Republicon liar lie his way through a TV interview without being challenged. They are the devil's kin, and I despise them. These are not mistakes in moral judgment these bastards are partaking in; they are out-and-out untruths they are deliberately attempting to revise history with, either to absolve themselves completely or to rise once again. I'm not going to live in fear of these assholes. I'll fight the bastards, if they're looking for a scrap or two. Fucking chumps.

I wonder if Beck keeps his craziness at work or if he also pretends to pour gasoline on his kids and wife and set them on fire too?

If Beck's wife ever divorces him he can pretty much kiss unsupervised visitation good bye. Unless he can prove that he was indeed deceiving his viewers and is not a danger to them.