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April 12, 2009

'Grassroots'

Glenn Beck is auctioning off $500 a plate lunches at the tea bag rallies. You know, affordable for the working man and all. But Benen observes that the tea baggers are missing the entire point of grassroots activism:

These right-wing events aren't just coming together naturally; they're the product of Fox News and corporate lobbyists. This is practically a textbook example of "astroturf." That Glenn Beck is charging $500 a plate to have lunch with him, to help subsidize the effort, only helps reinforce the larger dynamic.

Nothing says grassroots -- nothing says "Going Galt" -- like a massively expensive lunch held exclusively for the super rich with a television celebrity/maniac. Oliver Willis adds:

When people were protesting the Iraq War, they didn't have $500 a plate fundraisers. Then again, they didn't have sponsorship from Fox News, the backing of corporate lobbyists and the attendance of prominent conspiracy theorists like Alan Keyes.

The tea baggery is actually sounding more like mini outdoor conventions than actual grassroots protests. I'm seriously interested to see whether there are merchants selling "Galt" t-shirts. Then I'd like to see if anyone will ask those people if they see the irony in such a thing.


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Posted By Bob Cesca | April 12, 2009 11:09 AM

Comments

Bob--
Then I'd like to see if anyone will ask those people if they see the irony in such a thing.

Really? They would need to know what "irony" means before they get that and that would require one of those books they want to burn.

never happen, but I do love that you have hope

Posted by: veralynn at April 12, 2009 11:53 AM

No, we were told we were traitors for protesting during a war. It was un patriotic and not helping troop morale.

Don't these idiots realize the war they started is still going on?
Nobody is even covering the war anymore and troops are still being killed. families are still being torn apart by this war.
And why are they wasting all that tea? Don't they realize there are hungry people in this country?
Why are they wasting a food product?
These people are soooooo hypocritical.
Why do we put up with it????

Posted by: Diane at April 12, 2009 11:54 AM

Speaking as one of the middle-class people they're supposedly representing, I can't comprehend $500 a plate meals. I sat back and tried to imagine what that would be, but I just can't wrap my mind around paying $500 for one meal.

Incidentally, these professionally organized events: how do their attendance numbers compare to the actual grassroots protests during the Iraq War? A quick search shows the mass-organized 2/27 protests drew crowds of up to 1500 according to the organizers, with estimates from newspapers covering the events usually ranging up to 500. In comparison, the 2/15/03 anti-Iraq-war protest in New York alone drew 300,000-400,000 protesters, according to the more conservative estimates.

Posted by: Tusz at April 12, 2009 12:11 PM

It would be fascinating to ask "Teabaggers" holding signs in the street if they had ever read any books by Ayn Rand, or to described who the fictional Galt character is.

I'm betting it would be eerily similar to an episode of Leno's "Jaywalking."

Posted by: Wolfe Tone at April 12, 2009 12:23 PM

Maybe we should recirculate that ridiculous email that appears from time to time about how most of the original signers of the Declaration of Independence died poor and destitute because, you know, maybe "patriots" shouldn't get rich off of other people's patriotism....

Posted by: Nanotyrannus at April 12, 2009 12:23 PM

Sarah Palin's pick for AK's Attorney General: “If a guy can’t rape his wife…who’s he gonna rape?” Part 2

Speaking of emails/letters... this one is a blistering one from the father of the witness to Palin's AG pick's rape comments.

Had to share. Forgive if it's o/t. I just got wind of it.

Posted by: GottaLaff at April 12, 2009 1:01 PM

Oooops... link to last comment:

http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009/04/sarah-palins-pick-for-aks-attorney.html

Posted by: GottaLaff at April 12, 2009 1:01 PM

Whose idea was it to name themselves "Tea Baggers", and when do you suppose they realized the reference to the active end of a particular sex act, enjoyed many (though probably not those particular tea-baggers)?

Posted by: Casey at April 12, 2009 1:19 PM

...I can't comprehend $500 a plate meals. I sat back and tried to imagine what that would be, but I just can't wrap my mind around paying $500 for one meal.

This is the snake oil salesman at his best. Get everyone into a frothy lather and then hit them over the head with a sales pitch. I can't imagine anyone who is truly teabagging as a "non-partisan" (as some pseudo-trolls have claimed on this site) to go out and actually spend that kind of money for the privilege, nay, HONOR of having lunch with Glenn Beck.

Tired of being "tread upon"? Out of work? Struggling to pay tuition costs and making ends meet because the evil government is taxing you too much? Angry about the bailouts? Make your voices heard at a $500 a plate for a lunch with Mr. Glenn "Looney-Tunes-Cries-On-Command-We Surround-Them" Beck.

Posted by: Broadway Carl™ at April 12, 2009 1:27 PM

Your jealous nervousness is unbecoming. Would it be better if Axelrod's ACORN astroturfers were sponsoring the Tea Parties? Would that make you feel better?

Posted by: SorosGrapes at April 12, 2009 1:35 PM

I wonder if advertisers on fox shows (beck, hannity) support the teabag movement too? Maybe we should ask them.
This is a common tactic used by the conservatives and I bet it would work out here.

Mr Advertiser, do you support the teabag movement being heavily promoted by (insert name of fox show) and on which you show your comercials?

Many of them have called for 'teabagging them before they teabag us', do you support such a pre-emptive teabag strategy? Is the corollary of that 'let's teabag them over there before they teabag us here?"

Posted by: mattpddm03 at April 12, 2009 1:43 PM

Your jealous nervousness is unbecoming. Would it be better if Axelrod's ACORN astroturfers were sponsoring the Tea Parties? Would that make you feel better?

No jealousy invloved here, you cretinous mass. This is the classic bait and switch. Answer the question.

Who is going to be hypocritical enough to pay $500 a plate for lunch with Glenn Beck when the supposed point is that all these teabaggers are tired of being taken by "The Man"? Of course, if they're making enough money to ACTUALLY pay the 3% tax hike President Obama is proposing for those making more than $250K a year, then we already know the answer.

Have fun steeping.

Posted by: Broadway Carl™ at April 12, 2009 1:53 PM

>>Your jealous nervousness is unbecoming. Would it be better if Axelrod's ACORN astroturfers were sponsoring the Tea Parties? Would that make you feel better?

Why would they? They're getting tax CUTS, just as most of those involved in the Teabaggerea are.

Posted by: ceu at April 12, 2009 1:56 PM

My name is Tom, and I here to tell you about the California tax protest. (Tusz- We had 15,000 at our last event.)

The protest is fueled by AM radio primarliy, but unlike many of the other events, our first strike is aganist the Republicans. By the way, for the record, I am a Republican. Why, you're probably asking yourselves, the Repbublicans? Our Republican representatives all signed a no tax pledge to get elected. They broke that pledge in concert with the Democrats to pass the largest tax increase in American People in history, some $42 billion dollars. We are screwed for now, but there are propositions that the voters have to approve which will make things much worse for the taxpayers, if they pass.
We say, Repeal, Recall, Revolt. That means to repeal the propositions, recall the Republicans, revolt DOES NOT mean armed, it means CHANGE the way the state conducts itself, via special interest groups etc. etc. Anyone, if they want, can look at this website of the AM radio show;

http://www.kfiam640.com/pages/johnandkenshow/

and scroll down and see the heads of our Republican leaders with their heads on sticks, including Arnold. The best part is, if there are any of you that are in California and want to help get rid of Republicans, now's your chance, we welcome you, we need signatures for the recall.

We have absolutely nothing to do with Glen Beck, I personally have never seen his show. Our movement is made up of citizens from all political parties who, by and large are tired of being treated like ATM machines by their state government. We have seen our state government, who is Democrat controlled, has doubled in size over the past 10 years, the population has not. We pay high taxes already. We pay our teachers the highest wages in the nation, but yet they have a 50% drop out rate in Los Angeles. We have a 10.5% unemployment rate, but our state is ranked DEAD LAST in tearms of being friendly to business. Companies, and therefore jobs, are leaving the state in droves. The city of Los Angeles is right now on the verge of laying off 8,500 workers, teachers, janitors, administrators, because they have no money. We spend 18 billion a year to cover the cost on illegal immigration...all of this is unsustainable. The state is on the verge of bankruptcy, the teacher's unions won't accept the reality, this can't continue, the money has run out. Remember California was the 8th largest economy in the world, and we are swirling the bowl.

Posted by: TomCA at April 12, 2009 2:16 PM

Casey -

My take is that Koch's propagadists intentionally picked the teabagger name as a way of ridiculing the sheeple they were manipulating. Hey, I know, we'll call the protesters 'teabaggers' because the only people that will fall for this charade will have no idea what that means. [much laughter] Yeah, that's great, go with it.

I love the smell of astroturf in the morning, it smells like... desperation.

Say this ten times real fast:

Ten tiny tweeting teabaggers torqued their togas into twisty tangles while twirling teabags tenaciously throughout their tea tantrum.

Posted by: SillyRatfacedGit at April 12, 2009 2:29 PM

SorosGrapes -

Check this out at TPC. It has links to additional sources.

If you keep allowing the people like Koch to lead you around by your nose ring you will continue to get fleeced. Wake up and smell the astroturf.

Pathetic twit.


TomCA -

You may think you are part of a grass roots movement. However, it smells like astroturf. Check the link I gave to SorosGrapes. If you wish to be a teabagger [snicker] for the filthy rich, it's a free country, but I have no idea why you would protest the largest middle class tax cut in history. I thought you people loved tax cuts, or was that you only love tax cuts for the rich and corporations?

We tried things your way for 20 out of the last 28 years. It didn't work out very well. We reject your proven to be defective ideology.

In the the words of the right wing appointed Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia "You lost the election. Get over it."

In summary, we outnumber you. We are the majority in both houses of congress and occupy the White House. We are going to do things our way for a change. It is your turn to suck hind tit for at least the next four years.

If you do not mean an armed insurrection then don't call it a revolution. Yes, you are, in fact, revolting, but that is a different matter.

In 2012 you have a chance to change things. If you expect to attract the votes of independents then you had best stop acting like spoiled petulant children. No one will vote for twatwaffles except other twatwaffles. Take a very careful look in the mirror. You are not acting like Americans, you are acting like fascists demanding that things be done your way even when you get severely bitch-slapped in an election. If you did not get the message on 4 Nov. 2008, here it is one more time:

THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE TOLD YOU THAT YOUR IDEOLOGY IS TEH SUXOR.

I hope you got the message that time. Please stop bothering us with your wrong wing talking points. We've heard all of the bullshit hundreds of times and it got old long ago. You will never convince us that your are correct, because we do not cling to ideology as a matter of faith, we use what works. Your shit don't work dude.

Stop wasting your time and ours. Thanx

Posted by: SillyRatfacedGit at April 12, 2009 3:14 PM

TomCA -

What you want to protest is well intentioned. You have the right to protest.

Advice, take it for what it's worth coming from a Silly Git.

Organize your own protest independent of the tea tantrums. The tea tantrums are highly controlled astroturf campaign. Your message that you want to get out there from your protest will be ignored and replaced with the predetermined sound bites provided by the tea party organizers.

The tea tantrums are a fake grass roots propaganda campaign. There is no question about this. If you associate your protest with theirs, your protest loses and they use you.

I'd hate to see your message get lost in the spin.

Posted by: SillyRatfacedGit at April 12, 2009 3:27 PM

Ok I'm confused what is this "largest tax increase in American history" exactly?

Posted by: Alex at April 12, 2009 4:07 PM

is it possible that Tom is talking about a tax increase in CA? He seems to be bitching mostly about CA issues, not national issues. Although, I live in CA and haven't heard about a tax increase.

Posted by: fe at April 12, 2009 5:04 PM

correction, its an 'Astroturf' movement!

Posted by: steve b at April 12, 2009 5:42 PM

For all of you here that are having mental seizures over the Tea Parties...not to fear. It won't be shown by your media, it will be panned and smeared as is anyone who disagrees with your love for socialism/fascism/Obamaism. You'll be safe...don't panic...the university professors won't change their diatribe concerning their love for bigger and bigger government...things will proceed as usual until the average American taxpayer and his children are hit with uncontrolable inflation that will result thanks to your love of all the Wall Street and government agency weenies that are begging (literally) for our tax dollars.

Posted by: Robert Taylor at April 13, 2009 9:15 AM



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