So, to Scarborough one man's waterboarding is another man's bubble bath? WTF? The Americans used the ultra gentle form of waterboarding...

He sounds more and more sadistic with each passing day.

I still am amazed that we are even discussing torture. It is like a parallel world and I don't like it at all.

Americans supporting torture, really? The nut jobs shouldn't surprise me anymore and yet they do.

If only you could post this on Twitter. That character limit sucks...

Doucheborough is well adapted for Twitter. That sadist's entire mental repertoire exists as a series of 140 word sound bites. He has no in depth knowledge of anything. He is "stunningly superficial."

Say, Bob, where did I see an interview with that guy and Saddam? I think it was 60 minutes. They did 2 segments with him I think. It was very good, I will see if I can find a video of it.

part one here

part two here

the final part here

The Americans used the ultra gentle form of waterboarding...

The Americans use water softeners.

Oh, Joe. If hating you is wrong, I don't wanna be right.

I was raised by an army officer in the Catholic church. I was a Boy Scout. I had a very clear education and upbringing about what was right and wrong. Only Commies, Nazis, and evil Japanese tortured people. John Wayne, Roy Rogers, the Lone Ranger, Sgt Rock, Superman, etc. would cut their own nuts off before they would ever waterboard. Americans didn't do that kind of stuff. Joe Scarborough is great example of what has happened to how low our country has sunk.

As Bob said earlier, right on emsique!!

@Broadway Carl, water softeners? LOL...

Veralynn's right. It does seem surreal that we're discussing Americans torturing detainees of ANY sort. It's crazy and horrible.

Notice Scarborough's choice of words, though: The Japanese technique was far more savage." In other words, savage is fine, but MORE savage is clearly wrong.

Which version of waterboarding has Doucheborough endured? Has anyone asked him?

My guess is if we torture a couple of Teabaggers, what with them being Right Wing Extremists That Endanger Our Freedom & Way of Life Like the Savage Brown People, the discussion over it's illegality would come to a quick end.

Count me among the amazed that torture is even up for debate. I realize that we as a nation spent years being shellshocked after 9/11 and were willing to let Bush do what it took to keep us safe. But damn, how many times must torture be discredited before doucheborough and others will give it up?

Find me one professional interrogator who thinks it works.

Just one.

Spent all day trying to wrap my head around waterboarding someone 183 times in a month. I had heard KSM et al had sung like a Canary after a few seconds, at least according to a number of news reports.

bullet NBC News will later claim that, according to multiple unnamed officials, KSM underwent at least two sessions of waterboarding and other extreme measures before talking. One former senior intelligence official will say, “KSM required, shall we say, re-dipping.” [MSNBC, 9/13/2007]
bullet A former CIA official familiar with KSM’s case will later tell ABC News, “KSM lasted the longest under waterboarding, about a minute and a half, but once he broke, it never had to be used again.” A senior CIA official claims that KSM later admitted he only confessed because of the waterboarding. [ABC News, 9/14/2007]

So we learn now that it was six times a day for a month. Were all those reports wrong, or were the last 182 just for fun? Did the memos allow for this level of sadism, or was it done for Dick Cheney's DVD collection?

It makes me ill to ponder the idea that my tax dollars might have helped pay for this evil shit.

I would like to explain this real slow so that Bob can understand it.

The political continuum goes like this.

On the Right is anarchy. In other words, no government at all. Every person is absolutely free to conduct themselves in any manner they see fit.

On the Left of the continuum are Communists, Socialists, and Nazism.

Moving from Left to the Right, you have the Obligarcists(?) which is a puppet type of leader under the direction of a "control" group who tells the puppet what to do and say.

Moving even farther Right, you have a Democracy. In other words, majority rules.

The last stop moving Right is what our country was set up to be, that is a Republic. It was ultimately turned into a Constitutional Republic with a Constitution and Bill of Rights.

To the Right of the Republic, you are then back into an anarchy.

With this information, you might be able to communicate to those of us who are familiar with the different forms of government.

What the Tea Party was about was the deviation from the Republic that was originally formed 232 years ago and moving to a Democracy of majority rules and at the present the minority has little or no say in how our government is run,

It didn't work under GWB and it certainly won't work under BHO.

Our country is 250 trillion dollars in debt. The GDP is 14 trillion in our best year (of which this year will certainly not be one of them).

What the protest was all about Wednesday was the schock many citizens were expressing to find their retirement plans have been totaling destroyed, many are out of work for a number of reasons (one being the out-sourcing of jobs), homes are being foreclosed upon, etc,

Aren't honest, hard-working citizens entitled to vent their anger at their elected officials who have put an enormous tax burden upon them for the rest of their lives?

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Your welcome.

Sonny sez:

"On the Left of the continuum are Communists, Socialists, and Nazism."

Uhm, nice try (?) with that attempt to equate Nazism with Communism and Socialism, and therefore by extension, Liberalism (since Liberalism is supposed to be a "leftist" ideology).

If I remember correctly, the Communists and the Fascists (Nazis) pretty much hated each other, and neither would likely have had any patience with Liberalism. Especially considering Nazism has been pretty much firmly established as a ideology far more comfy on the Right.

But, hey, nice try.

Sonny,

Thanks for the Civics lesson. So happy that you could straighten things out for me. All those liberal communist professors obviously screwed me up in college when they taught me that on the far left you have the socialists and on the far right you have fascists. But what do they know, they're only University of California tenured professors. You know, morons.

And thank you for teaching me about the national debt. Here I was relying on the CIA World Factbook to tell me that the U.S. had aout $13 trillion in debt, or about 60% of our GDP. Make sure you let them know that our debt is closer to 2000% of our GDP.

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Sissy Joe Scarborough is talking shit again.

"at the present the minority has little or no say in how our government is run,"

Hate to break this to you, Sonny, but that's the way it's always been. You see, the Constitution protects the rights of the minority in terms of freedom of speech,assembly, etc. It does not, however, guarantee that you get to set the agenda for the government.

The majority is constrained from passing laws that interfere the with rights of the minority. But if the majority votes and decides to, say, invade another country that was no threat to us based on bogus intelligence, well then, the minority can't do anything to stop it.

Was that slow enough for you?

No time like the present for Joe Scumborough to have a little demonstration on Morning Joe tomorrow. Instead of charts, we can have waterboarding in front of our eyes. We can have Joe American Waterboarded and Mikka Japanese Waterboarded and let's see them gasping for air. I bet there's not much difference. D.