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July 10, 2009
Go Jane Hamsher
Watch this until the end:
ThinkProgress points out that food is, indeed, a human right.
A wingnut emailer yesterday was trying to wheel out this argument against me. My response was that Americans aren't being randomly kicked out of grocery stores and banned from returning. People aren't being singled out and charged triple the price for a loaf of bread. Inexpensive food is readily available to anyone in America who wants it.
In fact, we have more food in America than we know what to do with. But if suddenly the food industry were to start behaving like the healthcare industry, I certainly hope the government would step in and put an end to it.
What Jillian Bandes and other wingnuts don't get is this very basic concept: Health and medicine shouldn't be the exclusive domain of the wealthy.
Speaking of Jillian. About this: "I’m sorry I’m not a cancer survivor, but that doesn’t mean I can’t criticize a public plan." Eff you, Jillian.
Filed under: Food || Healthcare || Wingnuts
Posted By Bob Cesca | July 10, 2009 8:05 AM
Comments
Whoa. I feel really sad for Jillian. She seems awfully young. Talk about parents failing their children. Was having empathy/sympathy for your fellow human being ever modeled for her?
Wow! She asked a 16 year cancer survivor if she's aware of the wait time for life saving treatment BEFORE asking if food is a basic human right?
I really feel so sorry for her. She frightens me.
Posted by: scribblechic
at July 10, 2009 9:44 AM
Jillian definitely needs a blinky and a padded room. SHe is s useless tool.
Posted by: DaBomb
at July 10, 2009 10:30 AM
She did her job. She got her awful viewpoint across, assailed the 50 million "fantasy", as she believes it is, and kept Jane from getting a decent word in edgewise. That was all she was there to do. Spread lies and keep the other side from countering with the truth.
Posted by: Nanotyrannus
at July 10, 2009 10:41 AM
@ scrib, yes epic parenting failure, followed by the dittohead diet with a Beckatude chaser.
When this child hits the real world she'll hopefully reform. Until then she'll swirl in the "pro-life-as-I-know-it" soup and continue to froth this lack of reason and compassion.
This video needs to play daily to the COCS until they see what their corporate masters are doing to the minds of our young.
Posted by: bjritz
at July 10, 2009 10:55 AM
I don't get it. I know Jillian personally, I went to college with her and she worked on the Daily Tar Heel with me. She was a columnist, and except for that one article where she advocated strip-searching all Muslims in airports, she was pretty DFHed, especially about domestic issues. I guess working for town hall pushes you over the edge into full metal wingnuttia. It's sad really, she was pretty smart from what I could tell.
Posted by: ConstanceRifle
at July 10, 2009 10:56 AM
Well, I suggest we all chip in to rent a soundstage, put Jillian on a soapbox and point a camera at her. I bet we could get at least 4 or 5 decent :30 spots out of it. We'd get the public option passed in no time.
It was refreshing (in a queasy, stomach-churning way) to see the real emotion of the opposition so nakedly on display.
Posted by: Eric
at July 10, 2009 11:03 AM
@Eric:
We already have that, it's called "Washington Beat" and it's on townhall's website. Yeah, you don't want to watch it.
Posted by: ConstanceRifle
at July 10, 2009 11:06 AM
Yesterday, PPP had a great reply to one of Bob's Huffpo commenters. (Bravo on that, PPP)
Take a look at this simple point by point healthcare fact check from TPM: Facts
I thought it was quite helpful.
Posted by: bjritz
at July 10, 2009 11:25 AM
I love her argument that it's really only 10 to 20 million people who can't get insurance. Oh, well, hell if it's only 10 to 20 MILLION HUMAN BEINGS that's like nothing. Let's move on to something else. As long as we're reducing human beings to numbers it's only a few thousand people who died on 9/11. Hell that's nothing compared to the total number of people in America. Why all the fuss? Seriously, if we're not going to worry about 20,000 deaths each year for lack of health care, we probably shouldn't worry about any sort of homeland security threat that would affect less than that many people or less than 10 or 20 million people...just to be fair.
Posted by: camel54
at July 10, 2009 11:25 AM
I have been hoping not to invoke this but here goes...
At this festive season of the year, Mr. Scrooge,' said the gentleman, taking up a pen, `it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and Destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir.'
`Are there no prisons?' asked Scrooge.
`Plenty of prisons,' said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.
`And the Union workhouses?' demanded Scrooge. `Are they still in operation?'
`They are. Still,' returned the gentleman, `I wish I could say they were not.'
`The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?' said Scrooge.
`Both very busy, sir.'
`Oh! I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course,' said Scrooge. `I'm very glad to hear it.'
`Under the impression that they scarcely furnish Christian cheer of mind or body to the multitude,' returned the gentleman, `a few of us are endeavouring to raise a fund to buy the Poor some meat and drink. and means of warmth. We choose this time, because it is a time, of all others, when Want is keenly felt, and Abundance rejoices. What shall I put you down for?'
`Nothing!' Scrooge replied.
`You wish to be anonymous?'
`I wish to be left alone,' said Scrooge. `Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don't make merry myself at Christmas and I can't afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned -- they cost enough; and those who are badly off must go there.'
`Many can't go there; and many would rather die.'
`If they would rather die,' said Scrooge, `they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population. Besides -- excuse me -- I don't know that.'
Posted by: rrebelo
at July 10, 2009 12:05 PM
Wow. Pausing at 1:11... She really just said that it's David & Goliath... and Goliath is the public option? I guess so seeing as how it's overwhelmingly supported in 6 or 7 polls in the past few months (that I know of). But you're right, Jillian, 76% of America disagrees with you but you totally have the grassroots. Or something.
Also... Big Pharma is advocating FOR the public option in her version of events? I must have missed this.
Continue...
Wow. The way she said 'should food be a basic right.' Is there a word for bitchy and dismissive? Bitchmissive? Someone deny this idiot food for a while- because apparently she doesn't have a right to it- and then see how she feels.
Posted by: El Mystico
at July 10, 2009 12:59 PM
It always amazes me that the less of an argument a wingnut has, the more she has to shout and interrupt the other speaker. Apparently, if you don't have the facts or the public on your side, just go for volume and drown the other side out.
Posted by: dc_wilson
at July 10, 2009 7:28 PM
Plus, another example of false equivalence to arrive at the point/counterpoint shriekfest. What if Jane simply replied, "Jillian you ignorant...?"
Posted by: beautykilledbeast
at July 10, 2009 7:37 PM



