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August 19, 2009
Conference Committee Exposed (Wonky)
Ezra games out what the conference committee could look like, as far as retaining the public option in the final bill:
The members of the conference committee are chosen by the leadership. They include the relevant chairmen of the committees -- Max Baucus will be there, and Chris Dodd will probably serve in Ted Kennedy's stead, and they will meet with Henry Waxman and Charlie Rangel and George Miller -- and a handful of others. The final bill needs a majority of both the House and Senate negotiating teams. That will be no problem on the House side. If Harry Reid stacks the Senate team with enough left-leaning senators to ensure a majority for a liberal-leaning bill (this is where Jay Rockefeller, chairman of Finance's health care subcommittee, and Barbara Mikulski, chairwoman of HELP's retirement and aging subcommittee, could play a role), a liberal-leaning bill, with a public option, is a pretty good bet.That bill would easily pass the House. The Senate is trickier. But the conference report can't be amended. It can't be changed, or held up in committee. It can be filibustered, and it can be voted against. Those are the options. If three Democrats opposed the legislation and wanted to kill it, they would literally have to filibuster it (this is assuming that Democrats have 60 votes, which is not certain given Kennedy's health). That would be a very hard thing to do at that stage in the game. It would isolate the obstructionists, ensuring funded primary challenges and the enduring enmity of the Senate leadership and the White House. Kent Conrad can say that there aren't enough votes for a public option and imply that he's just protecting the final bill from defeat. But is he willing to be one of those "no" votes? Is he willing to filibuster? That's a different game indeed.
On Countdown last night, Lawrence O'Donnell wasn't so optimistic about the public option's chances in conference. Though, as Ezra wrote, Harry Reid will be responsible for stacking the Senate side. I suspect that "Harry Reid" will actually be "the White House." If that's the case and the White House is firmly behind the public option by October/November, then its chances are much stronger.
Also, there's just no way any Democrats will join the Republicans in a filibuster. President Obama is a powerful figure who is still very early in his presidency. While, yes, his approval rating could hang at around 50 or it could drop further. But there's an equal, if not greater shot that he climbs back up into the middle 60s. A Democratic president with a strong approval rating "accidentally forgetting" (wink) to endorse a congressional reelection campaign would be the kiss of death for that campaign.
In other words, you do not filibuster against a popular president of your own party -- especially on a bill that's this huge and important.
The Progressive Caucus is twice as large as the Blue Dogs and we have at least 45 Senators on record for the public plan in the Senate. If they want to block legislation they can do it. If the White House needs somebody to eat shit, there's a far better political reason for it to be the Blue Dogs and the corporate lackeys in the Senate than the progressives.All Obama has to do is tell the Blue Dogs that he won't work for them in 2010 if they don't support him.
That said, I'm sure Lieberman, Bayh, Conrad, Lincoln and some others could potentially vote no on the bill itself. If it passes with 51 votes, no harm no foul.
The wild cards in a filibuster, sadly, are Senators Kennedy and Byrd. Without them, we'd need two Republicans to break ranks and vote against the filibuster. That's a little more complicated and I have no idea how that'll work. Snowe and Enzi? Who knows.
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Posted By Bob Cesca | August 19, 2009 12:42 PM
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Yeah O'Donnell was less than optimistic.
Reid's in a difficult position, but in the past he's been not so shy about pushing back against the White House and completely ineffectual at standing up to Republicans/Blue Dogs in the Senate. Baucus and his cronies have exerted an enormous amount of control over the discussion in the Senate. They're not going to let go of that very easily.
I'm not so sure about Obama not campaigning for the Blue Dogs in 2010. If there's no serious Democratic challenger to these bozos, no one's going to want to risk losing that seat to a Republican. If we lose the majority, nothing will get done. And that sort of "disloyalty list" smacks more of something the Clintons would do, not Obama. He'll make his displeasure known, but I doubt he'll withdraw support altogether.
Posted by: Nanotyrannus ![[TypeKey Profile Page]](http://www.bobcesca.com/nav-commenters.gif)
at August 19, 2009 1:53 PM
Yeah okay. Too wonky.
Posted by: Bob_Cesca at August 19, 2009 1:54 PM
I don't know what shape Sen. Kennedy's in, but Sen. Byrd got off his wrinkly ass to vote FOR the continued funding of the F-22. If he can come in to vote for that, then he'd better come in and to cast one of the most important votes of his long political career.
Posted by: Broadway Carl™ at August 19, 2009 2:13 PM
No not too wonky :) I've actually not been too clear on how the conference committee was going to work. Now that we're closer though it's nice to finally be hearing about it and the nitty gritty of what makes it run. My real worry is that the House seems to be really really on our side in this, and the Senate is playing for the industry and could torpedo the whole thing without fear or a twinge of regret.
Something that I've noticed the past few years, though, is that awesome "I'm Just a Bill" ditty has left a lot of stuff out...
Posted by: Nanotyrannus at August 19, 2009 2:20 PM
I'm sorry Byrd and Kennedy are in such poor health, but for the good of the country and the future of the American people, shouldn't they step aside so another senator can actually do the job?
Posted by: eljefejeff at August 19, 2009 2:23 PM
You know, much was made about "delaying the vote" so that Republicans could review the legislation and all that clap trap.
If we can delay the vote for obstructionists, we can schedule the vote for a date when Senator Kennedy and Byrd can make a special trip. This is important and something Ted Kennedy has been fighting to enact for the past thirty years. We can make it possible for him to be there for the vote.
Posted by: Nanotyrannus at August 19, 2009 2:53 PM
Adding...
...for his to be the deciding vote would be an enormous tribute to him and his service.
Posted by: Nanotyrannus at August 19, 2009 2:56 PM
