The sources are interesting, but they don't really matter. Conservatives are defiant even when you spell it out clearly for them, and provide irrefutable sources for your info. Illustration:

Me: The economy, in particular the stock market, does better under democratic administrations.

Wingnut Relative: No it doesn't.

Me: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/10/14/opinion/20081014_OPCHART.html ; http://www.slate.com/id/2199810

Wingnut Relative (struggling to remember what Sean Hannity said about why democrats ruin the economy): Well, uhhhh, you see, the economy is cyclical...

Or how about this classic:

Me: The Iraq War has made us less safe.

Wingnut Relative: No it hasn't, blah blah blah, Saddam Hussein.

Me: Really? Because our National Intelligence community says it has. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/world/middleeast/24terror.html?_r=2

Wingnut Relative: 9/11 changed everything.

Me: I hate you.

the stimulus is not working, BOb, unless you like watching the uber wealthy get richer on wall street.

Unemployment is near 10% and that's only because we aren't counting all the small businesses who have closed their doors. If you count them, unemployment is actually closer to 15% than it is to ten.

To date, it's been mostly, only the wealthy who have benefited from the stimulus. Nice, huh?

I have over 150 clients who are or were small business owners. 23 have closed their doors. How's the stimulus working for them? Where is their government bailout?

No solutions in sight for them. Not even unemployment insurance. The stimulus is working?

Are you blind?

"Where is their government bailout?"
They don't get a government bailout because each small business's individual success would never create the sort of catastrophic domino effect that failing banks would. It sucks but that's reality.

I lost my job in January and still don't have full time employment. But I did get extended unemployment benefits through the stimulus and have created my own very small business, plus I'm taking classes at a local community college. If not for the stimulus, I might be worrying about defaulting on my home loan. The stimulus works for different people in different ways.

Yes PPP,

because your clients aren't affected clearly no one of any value has been helped....Christ.

Jesus H. Christ!

Wall Street Journal: U.S. Economy Gets Lift From Stimulus

WASHINGTON -- Government efforts to funnel hundreds of billions of dollars into the U.S. economy appear to be helping the U.S. climb out of the worst recession in decades...

...The U.S. economy is beginning to show signs of improvement, with many economists asserting the worst is past and data pointing to stronger-than-expected growth...

...Much of the stimulus spending is just beginning to trickle through the economy, with spending expected to peak sometime later this year or in early 2010. The government has funneled about $60 billion of the $288 billion in promised tax cuts to U.S. households, while about $84 billion of the $499 billion in spending has been paid. About $200 billion has been promised to certain projects, such as infrastructure and energy projects.

Economists say the money out the door -- combined with the expectation of additional funds flowing soon -- is fueling growth above where it would have been without any government action.

The fucking Rupert Murdoch Wall Street Journal even admits that the stimulus is working.