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November 7, 2009
Trancredo Storms Off
On MSNBC yesterday, Tom Tancredo ran away from Markos the same way he ran away from the draft.
As excellent as that was, the larger question remains: Why the hell is Tom Tancredo invited on television? Now generally, other guests and hosts are too polite and he's allowed to spread his race-baiting xenophobic nonsense freely and without any checks. However, this time it was actually useful to have him on because the host and the guest were fearless about exposing his ridiculous wingnut hackery. So you could call this phenomenon the Tancredo Conundrum. Is it good to have him on because it exposes the insanity? Or should he be ignored? Hmm.
Filed under: David Shuster || Healthcare || Markos || MSNBC || Tom Tancredo || Wingnuts
Posted By Bob Cesca | November 7, 2009 9:08 AM
Comments
This was priceless! I often wonder why Ed Shultz has him on and it's with some regularity. Ed is also usually much too polite to this dick. Nice going Markos!
Posted by: roxsteady
at November 7, 2009 9:24 AM
You know, I'll have to look back on the name of the author, but Shuster had another guy on Countdown that took him to task when he called Liz Cheney a "leader in the Republican Party." He called him out on the fact that the reason anyone considers Liz, Tancredo or any other of the lying wingnuts "leaders" in their party is because they are invited on by Shuster and others and conferred the status of "important person in the Republican Party" and by default, legitimacy. Shuster, Scarborough (surprise!), Steph, Gregory - they all call on these people for one reason and that's because they believe the dynamic is supposed to be Left vs. Right or there is no show. It's not supposed to be reasoned discussion, it's not supposed to be a panel of "experts" (even though that tends to happen when they call someone like Jane Hamsher or Markos), it's supposed to be a shouting match that is capped at the end with "Wow! What a great debate!"
I was happy to see Tancredo, a particular shitbird here in Colorado, storm off but I was not happy to see Shuster sputter out a glowing eulogy in his absence as if Tancredo was a normal person that everyone loves to have around.
I have spoken.
Posted by: Nanotyrannus
at November 7, 2009 9:49 AM
Him and Shuster got into a shouting match too. It was a fine moment in TV history.
Funny as hell. Wanted Markos to apologize.
Yeh right.
Posted by: Jan
at November 7, 2009 9:51 AM
What these shows should be doing is to have say, a progressive Dem on and an idiot Blue Dog. This would be must see tv as the progressive smacks down the duplicitous Blue Dog with some facts and figures on the public option including, the high approval numbers from said Blue Dogs state and the large payoffs taken by the Blue Dogs from the insurance industry. Perhaps even just someone like Markos debating, say that bitch Blanche Lincoln.
I don't understand why so many Republicans, more than the Democrats who are in power, are always invited on these shows. I thought the party in power was the one that should be most sought after. I guess someone forgot to tell the "Liberal Network" that is MSNBC.
Posted by: roxsteady
at November 7, 2009 10:10 AM
Shuster admitted he has Tancredo on because of his feisty point of view. They see as good TV. I'm glad they value ratings over serious discussion of the very real issues facing Americans today.
Posted by: eljefejeff
at November 7, 2009 10:52 AM
When he agreed that healthcare reform was the greatest threat to our freedoms ever & that teabaggers carrying signs showing piles of dead bodies from Dachau was fine with him & that the Dems did the same thing during BushCo...I wanted someone to smack him hard. Markos swatted him & it was good.
Posted by: ceu
at November 7, 2009 11:34 AM
adding...Tancredo also said that the people carrying the array of disgusting signs were probably Dems wanting to make the protesters look bad.
Posted by: ceu
at November 7, 2009 11:37 AM
Like we'd ever be caught standing anywhere near those inbred, asswipes! The best part was Markos drilling that asshole by reminding him that no Democrat who held office ever joined the fringers of the party and held these teabagger reach arounds. He totally bitch slapped that douchebag with cold hard facts!
Posted by: roxsteady
at November 7, 2009 11:42 AM
so glad tancredo walked out -- made the video so popular and many more people got to see the difference between a progressive and a dinosaur
Posted by: eve
at November 7, 2009 12:42 PM
I agree with the larger point that Markos Moulitsas was making, but he did take a cheap-shot at Tancredo. Not only was it unnecessary (he would have made his point more effectively without it), it will get incorporated into the "liberals can't debate without name-calling" meme. Plus, Tancredo, of all people, now gets to claim victimhood because his honor's been insulted. (I feel dirty even putting "Tancredo" and "honor" in the same sentence.)
As for the Tancredo Conundrum: by all means, this odious little man should be on television all day, every day. After a while, it should become obvious to all, even television producers and hosts, that he's barking mad.
Posted by: alopecia
at November 7, 2009 1:21 PM
agree, alopecia. Markos could have made his point by saying "I'm a vet & have used the system. You're not". Yet, at the time, I was rooting Markos on...
Posted by: ceu
at November 7, 2009 1:32 PM
Fuck Tancredo. There is nothing Markos could've said that isn't 1,000 times less offensive than what he says every single time he is in front of a TV camera.
Anyone who ever shares airtime with him has a duty to be just as personally insulting to him. If the networks keep bringing him on, it's progressives duty to make him walk off again.
Posted by: MattMcD
at November 7, 2009 2:57 PM
*meow*
Posted by: bibimimi
at November 7, 2009 3:25 PM
The best line -- the one that had me jumping up and down clapping my hands was when Tancredo said to apologize for what Markos was "trying" to say and Markos replied that he wasn't trying to say anything -- he was straight up. My goodness, that one bit of a comeback made my evening. Tancredo is so used to implying his bullshit thereby reliving him of any responsbility of what one may infer that he can't recognize unadulterated truth.
Posted by: staci
at November 7, 2009 3:52 PM



