"In the end, no detainee in CIA custody revealed the facilitator/courier’s full true name or specific whereabouts. This information was discovered through other intelligence means." CIA director Leon Panetta in a private letter to Senator McCain
Several things here. First, of course Panetta and McCain are both correct. Second, good job to Greg Sargent on the above scoop. Third, no one has stepped forward on my open challenge and supplied the name, quote and position of any non-political intelligence or military official who says waterboarding or torture is more effective and expedient than traditional methods of interrogation.
If the whole idea of torture is to provide a rapid resolution to a "ticking time bomb," wouldn't the Bushies have found Bin Laden while torturing KSM or any of the others?