Election 2016 Family Values

For Some Unknowable Reason, Team Trump Wants to Talk About Marital Fidelity Now

JM Ashby
Written by JM Ashby

Team Trump's takeaway from last night's debate appears to be that Trump simply wasn't ugly enough.

Considering what has transpired following the debate, I can see no other conclusion.

Trump campaign manager/spokesperson Kellyanne Conway has made the case that Trump should be commended for not talking about Bill Clinton's infidelity, as if that's somehow a winning argument, while top Trump surrogate Rudy Giuliani says Clinton is "too stupid to be president" for reasons.

Hillary Clinton’s decision to stand by her husband and attack former White House intern Monica Lewinsky when news of a sexual relationship between the two broke in 1998 prove that the former secretary of state is “too stupid to be president,” Rudy Giuliani said Monday night. [...]

“The president of the United States, her husband, disgraced this country with what he did in the Oval Office and she didn’t just stand by him, she attacked Monica Lewinsky. And after being married to Bill Clinton for 20 years, if you didn’t know the moment Monica Lewinsky said that Bill Clinton violated her that she was telling the truth, then you’re too stupid to be president.”

How many times over the years have we seen spouses literally stand by their (Republican) man after he's been caught in some kind of sex scandal? How many of them were attacked for their loyalty? None that I can recall, and one of their husbands was caught paying prostitutes to change his diapers.

Giuliani and Trump himself have both been married multiple times and/or have multiple children from multiple wives. I am personally not in the relationship judging business, but they certainly are. And if saying Clinton is "too stupid to be president" because she stood by her husband is now the official position of the Trump campaign, Republicans should be permanently disbarred from preaching about "family values" ever again.

The absurdity of the Religious Right and the so-called "values voters" who've endorsed a thrice-married candidate who's attacking a woman for standing by her husband is difficult to fully quantify. This is the Religious Right at their most hypocritical and perhaps even fatal moment ever.

  • mnpollio

    Giuliani and the Trump sycophants get more appalling every time they open their filthy mouths. I agree with everything this blog post outlines. For better or worse, Hillary Clinton stood by her husband after his infidelities were aired, which is supposed to be the ideal thing to do for a spouse (especially a woman) according to the vaunted font from which all moral wisdom flows – the Christian right. Except when it is in their interest to undermine an increasingly formidable female opponent…then they exploit standing by her spouse as a weakness. They cannot have it both ways.

    I also hope that the media does not play into this canard either (although they probably will). When “family values” candidate Vitter was exposed (and he actually broke the law as opposed to just marital infidelity), Republicans gave him a standing ovation for not resigning and poo-pooed any criticism away, stating that he had made peace with his wife and Jesus. The media pretty much gave him a pass – particularly the corporate conservative media – which is why there are huge swathes of people in this country that are unfamiliar with Vitter’s proclivities and the efforts of conservative Republican family values cronies in giving it a very quick pass. By contrast, if a Democrat gets caught in a peccadillo (even ones no longer in office), conservatives suddenly do not feel that this is a personal family matter and their media cronies hype it 24/7.

  • Giuliani and the Morals Brigade can go eff themselves. Clinton may not be able to say it but unofficial surrogates should be saying that this is the height of hypocrisy. In fact, didn’t Giuliani have a mistress scandal of his own and his wife left his ugly ass?

    • mnpollio

      If memory services, he DID have a mistress scandal and I believe that he announced the end of his marriage at a press conference…without letting his wife know first. I believe she was fairly stunned at the time to find out that Guiliani was divorcing her. But then he is just such a classy guy.

  • I welcome Trump bringing this up at the next debate. I’m pretty sure Hillary has a well thought out and rehearsed response that will blow his doors right off. This is another trap that the misogynist Trump can’t see coming and isn’t smart enough to avoid.

    • Totally agree. His base will eat these hypocritical insults up. But most undecided women and undecided men who have had wives stand by them after infidelity also won’t take the message kindly. In the end, I think it’s a win-win for Clinton, even if it stings a bit personally. Thankfully she has Kevlar skin at this point and I give her credit because I would have crumbled a long time ago under the pressure she has faced.

  • muselet

    Giuliani defended Trump, labeling him a “feminist” because of how he treats the women he employs, and said he would have responded to Clinton’s attacks much more harshly than the GOP nominee did.

    Tells you all you need to know about Rudy Giuliani.


  • Aynwrong

    Anyone who remembers the Giuliani administration and the way it ended remembers that around the same time his marriage ended will remember that it ended in a pretty ugly fashion while he was involved with another woman. Personally, I try not to concern myself with the personal lives of politicians. I do however always notice when Republican politicians will engage in the exact same behavior they so often get caught engaging in themselves.

  • ninjaf

    Yes, because honoring your vows is a despicable thing to do, apparently.

  • Nefercat

    “she didn’t just stand by him, she attacked Monica Lewinsky”
    Gee, the wronged wife had nothing good to say about the homewrecker with whom her husband had an affair. How unprecedented. Usually, the wife wants to be besties with the hussy and is overjoyed at the prospect of threesomes to come. Oh wait, no, that is not what happens. Fucking moron.

    Giuliani has turned from a nasty piece of work into a poo-flinging insane nasty piece of work.

  • Badgerite

    “Violated her”? Are we talking Monica Lewinsky here? She did a blow job on him and apparently it was exceedingly consensual and more than that she always maintained that she was the aggressor in their relationship. Not him. I believe her testimony was that she revealed her new “thong underwear” that she was wearing to him one day. Because she liked him. Apparently a lot. Nice try at revisionism but there are those of us who actually lived through the GOP hatchet job that was Kenneth Starr and his $70 million ‘investigation’ to find out if the POTUS at the time ever had a consensual blow job. Thanks so much, for that, BTW. Certainly taxpayer money well spent. People are allowed to have private lives. And private relationships. And not have fraudulent lawsuits funded by political opponents so that they can put a political opponent under oath with respect to his private life and relationships. Those are, indeed, private.
    This has been respected throughout American history. Except by the GOP when confronted with Bill Clinton in the White House getting in the way of all their dreams of destroying Medicare and Social Security as viable programs for the citizenry.
    Oh. And…….AMERICA!!!!!!!!!

    • ninjaf

      Based on the behavior we have seen from Republicans during the Obama administration, I guess this really is just evidence that they also considered Bill Clinton to be the first “black” President. 😉