History Quote WTF

Idiot Quote of the Day

JM Ashby
Written by JM Ashby

While a significant portion of the nation contemplates the merit, or a lack thereof, of flying the Confederate flag, lawmakers in Tennessee are debating whether or not they should rename Nathan Bedford Forest State Park.

One lawmaker in particular, state Senator John Stevens (R), will require more convincing than others, however, because renaming a park that owes its namesake to the first Grand Wizard of the Klan is a slippery slope to becoming ISIS.

No shit, he actually used those exact words.

"Here's the thing, I'm not for it or against it," Stevens said. "If people want to change the name of the park, change the name of the park. I'm certainly not going to defend Gen. Forrest. I just think it's a slippery slope when you start changing names and taking down statues.

"What separates us from ISIS?" Stevens asked. "Because that's what they do, they go around and tear down history in those nations that they've conquered. If that's what America is about now, then it concerns me."

I would be concerned if someone proposed that we go around and tear down what few remnants remain of Native American civilization. That is the only conceivable scenario that would be comparable to ISIS destroying the ancient landmarks and artifacts of world heritage.

The Confederate flag, monuments to confederate generals, odes to slavery, and parks dedicated to Grand Wizards do not rise to that level nor will they ever.

The semantics of time-scales and ancient moral ambiguity aside, there's a whole lot more to "becoming ISIS" than destroying or defacing landmarks. There's also the organized sexual violence, sex slavery, mass beheading and executions, and religious persecution.

If you asked me, I'd say if you hold the Confederacy or the Klan so close to your heart, you're a lot closer to ISIS than anyone else is.

Ben Carson warned us that this day was coming. He also said we need to be more like ISIS. I'm so confused.

  • Arthur Croft

    Confederate conservatives are far closer to ISIS than anyone would ever be able to admit. A truly inconvenient truth indeed–intolerant, willing to destroy anything in some form or another that doesn’t agree with them.

    I would be fine with conservatives if they weren’t constantly trying to convert me or call me a heathen or just being disrespectful assholes. I know, it’s a tall order for any conservative.

  • japa21

    So is he saying that the US is already like ISIS for tearing down the statue of Saddam Hussein?

  • Draxiar

    “…I’d say if you hold the Confederacy or the Klan so close to your heart, you’re a lot closer to ISIS than anyone else is.”
    Exactly what my thought was while reading the article.

    • MadJuana

      That was my thought, too. Our history of kidnap, enslavement, rape, torture, murder and general mayhem against Africans and their descendents doesn’t resemble the crimes of ISIS to this guy, but changing the name of a park is a slippery slope? Seriously?

  • muselet

    Looking on the bright side, at least John Stevens’s slippery slope—unlike Rick Santorum‘s—didn’t lead to man-on-dog sex. And that’s all the bright side I can see.

    Egads, what a chowderhead.

    –alopecia

  • Nefercat

    “start changing names and taking down statues” does not equal “they go around and tear down history”.

    The history is still readily available, including the story as to why the name that once seemed so appropriate for that park is no considered inappropriate, Stevens, you stupid bobblebrain.

    There is also a difference between taking down oh, say, the symbols of traitors who wanted to ensure the right to enslave other human beings, and treasured symbols of a nation’s unity and common culture.