On this week's episode of The Bob Cesca Show's Interviews From Earth One, we talk with Dr. Nancy MacLean, who you might've seen on Bill Maher earlier this month. She's a professor of history at Duke University and the author of Democracy In Chains: The Deep History of the Radical Right’s Stealth Plan For America. Buy the book here. We'll dig into Charles Koch and his subversive, racist plan to undermine the Constitution, and how the entire plot began with the work of a UVA economics professor named James McGill Buchanan. This might be the most important show I've ever done.