Make America Scared Again

(Cartoonist - John Darkow)

In other news, GOP nominee Donald Trump spoke in Virginia today where he credited our "friends" in China and Russia for hacking the DNC. It's not clear if he understands what he just said.

Meanwhile, Bernie Sanders sent text messages and emails to his former supporters today asking them not to protest at the Democratic convention but, if you're watching, you already know they aren't listening to their former savior.

These people are the children we've been saying they are for most of the last year.

Programming note... I had a really poor mental health day today and struggled. I can't guarantee I'll be online tomorrow but I'll do my best.

  • mnpollio

    Truthfully, none of this would be in play if the Dems had selected a better candidate than Hillary Clinton, someone who was not afflicted with all of the baggage (both real and imagined). Am I voting for her over Trump? Absolutely. Is she a good candidate? Not particularly. Even if the DNC did not want to promote Sanders, there were other much better candidates than Clinton (including other women) that they could have gotten behind to run in her place instead of treating this like a coronation. If I had a dollar for every time Debbie Wasserman-Schultz said that “this was her [Clinton’s] time” as though no one else on earth was allowed to campaign for the nomination, I would be a millionaire. Clinton could have recently gotten some momentum going with a really stellar VP selection, but instead settled on the middle-of-the-road vanilla non-entity of Tim Kaine, who quite frankly has no one excited except DNC shills and Beltway insiders. If Hillary Clinton does win, and that has now become questionable in some of the latest polls, it will be solely because of fear of Trump.

    I would also like to take a moment to thank this blog, who at the start of Trump’s campaign was one of several liberal websites that kept goading Republican/conservative voters to select Trump – ostensibly because it was decided on high that it was a given that he was a joke and would lose against Clinton. I said then be careful what you wish for and not to underestimate the power of Trump’s hate speech striking a chord with disgruntled Americans and overtaking Clinton’s blase business-as-usual politics, but so many found it so darn funny that could not stop mouthing off about it. It is not funny now and, if he wins, you guys own it just as much as anyone else. Thanks a lot!

    • Scopedog

      Hey buddy…

    • You honestly think that the GOP base voted for Trump because of sites like this, sites that the average GOP voter doesn’t even know exists? That’s delusional. I personally said from the beginning that I thought Trump would be the nominee not because he’s a joke but because he represented the very worst impulses of their base. Blaming liberals is stupid. Hillary still has a good chance of beating him. Right now he’s gotten a bump from his convention and because fear sells. But the DNC isn’t over yet and polls mean nothing right now. So down a Valium or two and after you’ve had a good nap, go out and work hard to help get Hillary elected. If she loses it won’t be because she failed…it will be because liberals didn’t mobilize to stop the most dangerous candidate in the history of our country.

    • Victor the Crab

      If you’re voting for Hillary Clinton in November, cool. But your diaperbaby whining about the process leaves us with zero fucks to give to you.

  • Ashby, hang in there. Don’t let the bastards get you down.

  • GrafZeppelin127

    These people are the children we’ve been saying they are for most of the last year.

    For years I’ve been saying that Republican politics in the age of Obama has been built around self-congratulation and resentment. It was the theme/slogan of the 2012 RNC.

    This is the corollary to that. Left-wingers and right-wingers have two unfortunate things in common: (1) they deeply admire themselves for their “principles,” and (2) they wrongly think that the best way to turn those principles into policy is to elect Republicans.

    If you’re a liberal/progressive, refusing to vote for or support the more progressive candidate because (s)he is not the most progressive candidate, is neither “principled” nor courageous. It’s a rather insidious form of self-praise. Like the so-called “Tea Party,” these people admire themselves way too much to be taken seriously. To them I would say the same thing I would say to Tea Partiers: GET THE F*** OVER YOURSELVES.

  • Draxiar

    Be Well Ashby…

  • Dread_Pirate_Mathius

    As a [former] Bernie supporter, I think Hillary, warts-and-all, is 1,000x better than Trump. There is no equivalence between the two.

    Would I rather vote for Bernie? Yes, of course.

    Will I do anything to sabotage the chances of having a center-left candidate win? Hell. No.

    Any Bernie supporter who cannot get in line behind a moderate liberal with a solid record like Hillary Clinton is a wingnut and deserves to be treated as such.

    Will I be voting for Clinton? Well, no.. but only because my wife wants to vote against her and we have a standing agreement to both vote third party since our votes would otherwise cancel out.

    • Dread_Pirate_Mathius

      Disclaimer: I indicated that I am a former support of Bernie Sanders. This is not entirely accurate. I still do support him and would welcome another run should the opportunity arise. I think he does great work and deserves our immense respect. I just don’t support him over the Democratic nominee for the reasons I mention above.

      As Mitch Hedberg would have said:
      I used to support Bernie Sanders.
      I still do, but I used to, too.

    • JMAshby

      You’re both going to throw your votes away on a third party? What a waste.

      • Dread_Pirate_Mathius

        How is it a waste? If I vote for Hillary and she votes for Trump, we cancel out. Net-net nothing happens. We have no affect on anything.

        If we both vote third party, we still don’t help either party, but some third party also gets a few more votes and we do our tiny part to chip away at the two party system.

        Seems like a win to me.

        • JMAshby

          That is some bizarre, lizard-brained calculus.

          You aren’t chipping away at anything but yourself.

          • Dread_Pirate_Mathius

            Care to elaborate, or did you just want to insult me?

        • Your wife would otherwise vote for Trump?!? That would put a significant strain on my marriage.

          • Dread_Pirate_Mathius

            Tell me about it.

            She’s not really pro Trump so much as virulently anti-Hillary.

        • Your reasoning isn’t taking into account the larger picture. Your votes don’t cancel each other out. Your vote gets counted with millions of others and absolutely can have an effect on the overall count. What if your vote is the one that puts Hillary over the 50% line and that effects whether she wins the state or not? But it’s your right and you’re gonna do what you’re gonna do. Just don’t try to justify it that way because your “cancellation” theory isn’t how it works.

          • Dread_Pirate_Mathius

            I live in NY. We’re not in play.

            If I lived in Florida, I’d be more concerned.

        • Hutchbilly

          You could say a vote for a third party doesn’t help either, until you you look at the Florida vote in 2000 where the votes that went to Nader instead of Gore made the election close enough that the GOP could steal it. That changed history for the worst. And why vote for a party that only shows up once every four years, that has only 8 elected officials in the entire country? You’re not protesting, you’re preventing anything that you want from a progressive standpoint to happen by making the perfect the enemy of the good. You’re not going to get all you want, so get some of it rather than none of it.

    • Yeah, you had me up to the point where you’re not going to vote for Clinton.

      • Dread_Pirate_Mathius

        What’s the point?

        If I vote for H and my wife votes for T, the state (NY) still goes for Hillary and we’ve done nothing but cancel each other out and waste our time.

        • As opposed to voting third party? Also wasting your time.

    • 1933john

      Get up on your hind legs and tell her,
      with a shit eating grin on your face,
      that it’s none of her business how
      you vote, then have another beer
      and fart, or duck and cover!

  • Scopedog

    These people are the children we’ve been saying they are for most of the last year.

    Yep. Nobody listened then, but take a look now.