Lying Liars


JM Ashby
Written by JM Ashby

Congressional Democrats and concerned citizens are raising the alarm and vowing to fight the GOP's plan to privatize Medicare, but Speaker of the House and Randian granny-starver Paul Ryan vaguely implied this morning that he doesn't intended to privatize Medicare even though he's been trying to do that for most of a decade.

During his presser, Ryan said "what's happening is you're getting the latest wave of Democratic talking points to try to play Medi-scare politics, which is what they typically do every other Tuesday." [...]

Ryan has been pretty vocal about his plans, however. On Thursday he once again argued the program needed to be overhauled.

It's no mystery or secret what Ryan's plans are. Ryan even ran for vice-president in 2012 on his plan to privatize Medicare by converting into a glorified coupon system.

Privatization of Medicare has been a feature of his plans dating all the way back to 2011 when he first unveiled his Path to Poverty Path to Prosperity budget. That budget was recently rebranded as "A Better Way," but it's still the same plan.

Moreover, Trump's choice to run the Department of Health and Human Services, Tom Price, is in favor of privatizing Medicare.

Even the most hack-y reporters must have done a double-take when Ryan implied that he doesn't plan to privatize Medicare.

  • Draxiar

    Ryan: “We’re not privatizing medicare…we’re making medicare privatized…there’s a difference.”
    Trump voter: “Oh, well okay then…that’s better!”

  • Dread_Pirate_Mathius

    Perhaps not the world’s most popular opinion: I hate medicare. I hate it.

    Why should you get single payer just because you’re over 65?

    Either we ALL should get it or not. But giving it to just a special block is absurd. It’s absurd and unfair.

    (and it pisses me off how these people gripe about handouts while sponging off MY paycheck)

    As long as Medicare exists, there’s no incentive for the elderly to get on board with giving the rest of us the benefits of what should be a BASIC HUMAN RIGHT. They got theirs, so screw the rest of us.

    I say either universal single-payer or exclusively Medicaid.


    • Never actually thought of it that way….

    • Aynwrong

      Dammit! Now I gotta think about that.

  • muselet

    Paul Ryan, the zombie-eyed granny-starver from the state of Wisconsin, doesn’t intent to privatize Medicare … yet. To date, he hasn’t used the “y”-word, but it’s coming (when it does, I guarantee it will be in the middle of a typically disingenuous statement about the finances of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security).

    I do wish Ryan’s fitness obsession had kicked in a couple of decades earlier. Then he’d be a crossfit instructor in Janesville and the rest of us would never have heard of him.


    • fry1laurie

      Yep, not scare tactics at all to tell the public that Medicare and Social Security are BANKRUPT!!! and that YOU YOUNG PEOPLE WILL NEVER SEE ANY BENEFIT FROM THEM, EVER!!!! Even though the ACA, which they will repeal (without replacing) has saved Medicare millons.

      • Badgerite

        Young people will. They have parents. And their parents need Medicare as they will when they reach that age. There is no real money to be made in insuring old, sick or dying people. That is why Medicare exists in the first place. And the healthcare industry would be hit hard were it to go away. Most of the people they treat are the elderly. Their most reliable customer base.

    • Badgerite

      it isn’t Ryan, as such. This has been on the agenda dating for the GOP dating back to forever. It only started to surface as a GOP issue when they took control of Congress in 1994. Since then, they have been trying any way to get both Medicare and Social Security on the chopping block. Ryan is just the latest lying hack to try to do that. Gingrich was trying to do this dating back to the government shutdowns that went on in the Clinton Administration.

      • muselet

        Yes, but … (You knew there would be one of those, right?)

        The difference, as I see it, is that earlier R potshots at the social safety net were mostly fan service: The Base wanted to know those horrible socialistical programs were as hated by their elected officials as by themselves. Newt Gingrich didn’t care about those programs, he just wanted to make a name for himself so he could cash in later. Yeah, sure, Gingrich would happily have gotten cutbacks (more money for tax cuts!) out of the Clinton administration, but he was never serious about eliminating them (too many Republican voters rely on them).

        Paul Ryan, on the other hand, is a True Believer. He really and truly believes the country would be better off if non-rich people over 65 would just die off in dark rooms somewhere, though he doesn’t have the guts to say so out loud. What makes him dangerous in a way that, say, Rand Paul isn’t is that our glorious news media (wrongly) see Paul Ryan is a Numbers Guy and a Policy Wonk while they (rightly) see Rand Paul as a circus clown.

        I go after Paul Ryan not because he’s the only one advocating for Ice Floes For Elders, but because he’s the only one who’s taken at all seriously.


        • Badgerite

          Well put I wasn;t criticizing your going after Ryan. I think it is justly earned. I was tying it to long term efforts of the GOP that have nothing to do with current fiscal outlook of Medicare.
          Ryan is going to try to tie this kind of action to Obama somehow.
          He is that dishonest. They are that dishonest.

  • All part of the big lie.