The Bob & Chez Show Presented By BubbleGenius.com 12/1/16

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The Meat Wagon: Hillary Clinton's popular vote margin keeps growing; The latest news from the recount; Trump outperformed his polling in nearly every state he won; Mitt Romney grovels to Trump; Steve Mnuchin is the new Treasury Secretary; Trump bribes Carrier to keep factory in Indiana; The Trump Victory Tour; Good news and bad news on healthcare; and more. Brought to you by Bubble Genius, Harry's Razors, the BobCesca.com Amazon Link and The Bowen Law Group.

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muselet
And Season Kreetings back at you, Ahnuld, you ‘roided-up perv. (Good lord ‘n butter, Bob, every year you play Der Gropinator wishing us a choyous holiday. Give it a rest, would ya?)
This is the first time I had a chance to hear your new Donald Trump theme, the clown car Imperial March. It is a perfect thing.
Bob, ain’t gonna happen. No recount will change the outcome of the election, there aren’t nearly enough faithless electors, nothing is going to save us from four years of an aggressively ignorant, unqualified, narcissistic, would-be alpha-male toddler as President of the United States.
Chez, for at least six months, China—China, I ask you—has been pointing to Donald Trump as proof that democracy is a failed system. And of course Russia wanted a manipulable, corrupt ignoramus as President.
Bob, to your list of factors in Trump beating his poll numbers, add “lying to pollsters.” Personally, I think this is good news, not because we’ll soon have Mango Mussolini as President, but because maybe—just maybe—our glorious news media will STFU about the horse race and cover issues because polls are meaningless (look, a flock of flying pigs!).
Trump and Mike Pence, as I said on the blog, set a dangerous (and yes, stupid) precedent by bribing United Technologies. Now every company, whether it is planning to move jobs out of the US or not, will be lining up for its *ahem* tax break. This, will cut federal tax revenues, which will in turn give the Rs yet another excuse to cut the social safety net. (Paul Ryan just came in his pants, and apologies for the mental image.)
Mike Pence is predictable. He has awful beliefs and a horrific agenda, and given half a chance—such as, for example, a disengaged poophead as President—would work tirelessly to make those awful and horrific things a reality, but there’s very little chance he’d suddenly decide to nuke Tehran or rename Thursday “Trumpday” (or, worse, “Putinday”). He’s a misogynistic, fetus-fetishizing, god-bothering boob, but he’s borderline sane.
Can we all agree to ignore Ann Coulter, please? If we stop paying attention to her, maybe she’ll go away.
Chez, Australian politics are almost worse than ours. And a wallaby is sort of like a kangaroo only different. Unless you’re talking about Wallabies, either the Australian national rugby union side or the ugly-ass shoes, which are different.
Steve Mnuchin troubles me because the Secretary of the Treasury is chief economic adviser to the President, and who the hell knows what Mnuchin would advise? Of course, I’d say the same thing about any nominee for Treasury, so season to taste.
Bob, public support is not and never has been relevant to the Rs’ efforts to repeal the 20th century. As soon as they possibly can, they’ll go after Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, the public be damned. The sad part is that very few Rs will lose their elected offices as a result.
My guess is that the respondents to the Kaiser poll realize they’re benefitting from the ACA and merely want to kick those people off. (Cynical? Moi?)
Of course the Rs will Repeal but not Replace. Repeal is easy, Replace is hard.
–alopecia
ProudLiberalAlways
The recount was the featured topic between Thom Hartmann and Greg Palast today on his show. It was a fascinating discussion, and from it I got the impression that the most likely scenario will be that Jill Stein won’t have sufficient funds to count all three states. You should listen to the podcast for 02/01/16.
And Chez is right. Hillary was a terrific candidate. She was intelligent, measured, and correct. The only thing that’s helped me so far is re-watching Network. A few times!
Goldie
I’M having the same nightmares as Chris Hayes, Bob and Chez!
And, @#%&, I agree with you guys about Pence. Gawd, Pence is all kinds of awful, but so much less than the despot-elect. At least Pence would want to leave the building standing.
IrishGrrrl
Just wrote this in Ashby’s post on the Carrier deal but I said it’s a bribe and shitty one at that. It’s like a guy running around in a wildfire stamping out little fires when there is a wall of fire coming at him. The President affects the job market through policy initiatives that result in Executive Orders and Legislation not personally via bribes. It’s not rocket science…except for Herr Cheetoh.
The Gropenfuhrer’s voters will never accept the fact that he is screwing them over because the MSM will buy whatever bullpucky the GOP feeds to it, which will be the narrative will be that America can’t have nice things because of “those” people.
- Aynwrong
  Trump just turned “saving American jobs” into a racket. Only now it’s the management who walks around their own company and says:
  “Nice place WE got here. Be a shame if WE run into the ground, ya know what WE’RE saying.”
Badgerite
Daily Kos has some numbers posted.
Hilary Clinton lost these states by this much:
WI – 22,177
MI – 10,107
PA- 46,425
Total of 79,316
All Hilary Clinton needed to do was flip 40,000 votes in those three states.
“Jesus wept”.
- IrishGrrrl
  some Trump Monster voters who are expressing some buyers remorse on the twitters
  About gd time!
  - Badgerite
    Seriously. Boo Hoo.
    - Aynwrong
      Like I said the other day, these people deserve the biggest, loudest most obnoxious right in the faces “WE TOLD YOU SO”!!!!!!!… in U.S. history.
  - Scopedog
    Yeah…of course, too little, too late, but…
  - muselet
    Same thing happened after the Brexit vote in the UK. “Oh, I wanted to send a message, I didn’t think it would pass!”
    Nincompoops are universal.
    –alopecia
    - IrishGrrrl
      Nincompoopery is part of the human condition and that’s why I’m on the fast track to “Misanthropia”.
- Scopedog
  I wonder how many votes went to Stein or Johnson in these states–how many people decided that purity was more important than letting the country get thrown over the fence and given the business without lube (or how many wanted the “system” to come crashing down, and their vote would do it).
  Of course, Cornell West is gleeful about Trump’s win, since he claimed that it finally destroyed the era of neoliberalism.
  West is further proof that some people who consider themselves “intellectuals” aren’t as intelligent as they think.
  - Badgerite
    Wow. Last sentence for sure. Government of Goldman Sach, by Goldman Sachs, for Goldman Sachs. I love the smell of “revolution” in the morning.
    - Scopedog
      I love the smell of “revolution” in the morning.
      Yep–and sadly, it sure as hell isn’t the smell of victory.
  - Aynwrong
    I love that logic. It implies that the Bush Administration just wasn’t destructive enough.
    Intellectual head up it’s own assery at it’s finest.
- Sunny Day☼
  Really? I haven’t encountered a single person so far that has shown a drop of remorse. Lucky you. 😉

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