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RELM_buttonThe Problem with Fruit: Indiana Passes Nightmarish Anti-Choice Law; Trump Supporter Sucker-Punches African-American Protester; Trump Campaign Goon Abuses Reporter; The CNN-Univision Democratic Debate; Bernie Attacked on Cuba; Fox and Friends on the Soviet Holocaust; CNN Conservative Doesn't Understand American History; and much more. Brought to you by Bubble Genius, the Amazon Link and The Bowen Law Group.



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  • KABoink_after_wingnut_hacker

    I lived in the Caribbean for over a quarter of a century and Cubans are thought of entirely differently than how Americans view them.
    It’s true that after seizing power Castro gave Cubans healthcare and raised the literacy level far above that of the US. Bernie should not be criticized for pointing this out.
    In fact, Cuban doctors and nurses are heralded for their life saving contributions throughout all of the Caribbean, Central America and South American countries.

  • Victor the Crab

    Shouldn’t we also consider the possibility that there were a fair number of Republicans/right wingers who registered as Democrats so that they could vote for Bernie Sanders in order to keep Michigan away from Hillary Clinton? In other words, classic ratfucking?

  • Christofloridian

    I get that it is easy to make fun of the phrase “Political Revolution,” but come on. This is the United States; you know what a would qualify as a political revolution? A 75% voter turnout rate. Bernie Sanders’ entire revolution is “get involved, stay involved.” Taking shots at the political revolution is, in fact, demeaning the idea that Democrats could gather for huge protests on Washington or maybe vote with the regularity of Republicans. Burn everything to the ground and start over? When has Sanders ever said that?

    I don’t see how you get away from referring to the reality of the current economic situation. It’s not as great as the numbers would suggest. The entire anti-establishment trend has risen from the fact that the economy has recovered, but the recovery hasn’t touched enough people in enough tangible ways. If you stand on the stage and sing the praises of the current economy, you’re going to be painted as out of touch with normal people. If it is bad politics to acknowledge the economic landscape, what kind of politics is it to ignore the conditions that people are facing?

    And every time someone asserts that Republicans are right that Bernie Sanders would be easier to beat in a general election, I’m reminded of how the GOP was absolutely certain that Mitt Romney was going to win 2012 by a landslide, right up to the end of the election. I remember Karl Rove losing his shit on Fox. And I don’t think people give GOP Nominee Trump enough credit when it comes to the kinds of ammunition he’d be able to use against Hillary Clinton that would be blanks against Bernie Sanders. I can freely admit that Sanders supporters have an overly rosy view of every aspect of the Sanders campaign; perhaps you should reflect a bit to see if you aren’t projecting your own evaluation of Sanders onto the general voting public. If you comment on politics, you are already a world away from the average voter.

    Let’s talk Michigan. Is it really fair to treat Sanders and Clinton as equivalents in terms of what questions an upset raises? Because that means treating Clinton like she hasn’t been +20-50 points over Sanders all across the country for the past year or more. If you’re Bernie Sanders, and your polling goes from (just as a hypothetical) 20% behind to 15% ahead over the course of some months, and the final polls in aggregate have you winning by 18% with a 3% margin of error–for you to swing the polling numbers up from a huge disadvantage to a commanding lead, and then have it inexplicably swing back on voting day would be a huge red flag in any election, in any country on the face of the Earth.

    Contrast that to Hillary Clinton’s situation; she was always ahead by large numbers. The number slowly starts to close as her opponent stays in the race. In what looks to be an unfortunate turn of events for her opponent, the election day comes before those numbers could close enough to give him a statistical shot at the state. Then there is a huge election day swing. No one has really figured out if it was a last minute thing or if the polls missed something. The underdog comes up to win by 1.5%. Are we pretending that these two scenarios should be equivalent? I mean, come on, we can support one side or the other without tossing reason out the window and embracing the most hyperbolic, extreme caricatures of the other side. Yes, there would be no calls of cheating or conspiracy if Sanders wins a state that polls say he shouldn’t–you know why? It’s not because the Clinton people are more reasonable or rational–it’s because even they know how ridiculous the words “massive grassroots conspiracy” sound.

  • Badgerite

    BTW, you cannot ‘game’ the ACA. If you get a refund of the Net Premium Tax Credit it is because you over estimated your Adjusted Gross Income and therefore overpaid your individual portion of the healthcare premiums during the year and some of that gets refunded to you. Likewise if you underestimate your AGI and underpay your portion of the premiums during the year, you are stuck with a tax liability. That isn’t ‘gaming’. That is flexibility since no one can be sure what their income for the year will be til the year is over and therefore it must be an estimation.

  • Badgerite

    This is the thing about Bernie Sanders, he will not win a general election. Social movements, without some influence in government, end up petering out. Or having destructive effects in the long run.

  • Badgerite

    How come Rick Snyder isn’t charged with infanticide? Or at least fraud and poisoning.

  • muselet

    Bob, the problem is the decision in Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey which created the remarkably elastic and nonspecific “undue burden” standard. No conservative federal court has found any burden borne by women seeking abortions to violate that standard, which tells you just what a load of hooey that standard really is.

    I invite all 60 Indiana state Senators who voted for the bill to find a doctor—by which I mean an actual MD who doesn’t have a syndicated talk-radio show—and discuss the definition and consequences of “anencephaly.” (Make up your own jokes on that one, folks.)

    Chez, it took posting multiple videos of the attack on social media to get the local yokels to even start asking who the assailant was. It was a shameful display of, at best, incompetence on the part of local law enforcement.

    Yes, Bob, John McGraw really did say that.

    Corey Lewandowski should be charged with assault and battery at the very least. I won’t hold my breath until that happens.

    “It’s all about Obama.” Well, of course, and in the general the R nominee will be pretending that the D nominee is just a whiter, older version of the un-American Kenyan usurper. This is the level at which American politics operates.

    Bob, you have to remember that Righties are screeching that Bernie Sanders supposedly “honeymooned” in Yaroslavl in solidarity with the Soviet Union. (Not so much, despite the inexplicable “Mostly True” conclusion of PolitiFact.) Of course they’re going to be howling about Sanders’s comments about Cuba.

    Anyone who dismisses FiveThirtyEight—and math—is an idiot.

    I think it’s safe to call Michigan an outlier.

    That may be the stupidest thing ever said in the history of stupid things being said. I understand the need for a segue to a larger discussion—and I’m sure that discussion was *ahem* remarkably intelligent and sensitive to the unique history of the Jews—but good grief. Them people ain’t hired for their smarts, are they?

    And speaking of not so smart, Jeffrey Lord has, to quote one of my favorite lines from The Great Race, a brain the size of a carbuncle.


  • Aynwrong

    @Bob Cesca
    Along the lines of “The Liberals/Democrats are the real racists” argument, THIS is about to be a thing.

    Welcome back Dinesh D’douche bag D’Souza!!!

    • muselet

      Can I welcome Dinesh D’Souza back with a cricket bat?

      (I got 36 seconds into the video before I gave up. D’Souza is a self-aggrandizing little twit who seems to believe campaign finance laws constitute some sort of grand conspiracy to oppress self-aggrandizing little twits. I can live without hearing from that sort of person.)


      • Aynwrong

        You can welcome D’Souza back with an elephant gun if you like.

        Please understand I’m not pushing D’Souza. I see him for the race baiting pimp that he is. I just thought I’d bring up something that were all gonna end up hearing about no matter what.

        • muselet

          I never figured you were a D’Souza fan.

          And you’re right, we’re going to be hearing a lot more anti-Clinton nonsense from D’Souza and his ilk for the next 4½ years, at least.


      • Can I welcome Dinesh D’Souza back with a cricket bat?

        Be my guest! :0

        D’douche didn’t learn much of a lesson in prison. People who don’t take responsibility for their own actions drives me nuts.

        • muselet

          I never thought he would learn a lesson. On the bright side, though, we can now refer to him as “convicted felon Dinesh D’Souza,” which I think should become the standard way of referring to him.


          • Indeed, every time we use his name, meaning “convicted felon Dinesh D’Souza”, we should give him the title. Maybe some day it will be associated with his name online like Santorum. Hehe

    • Badgerite

      “Swept under the rug”? Seriously. Has this pea brained __________ never heard of the Dixiecrats and Strom Thurmond. You know, the Strom Thurmond who lead the walk out at the Democratic Convention of 1948 in protest to its adoption of a strong Civil Rights plank in it party platform.
      This was the start of the mass exodus of the ‘Rebel’ south from the Democratic party. At first they formed the State’s Rights Party, which essentially went nowhere. Truman won re-election anyway.
      George Wallace, a rather famous segregationist, ran in the Democratic party in 1968 as a protest against the Civil Rights legislation that LBJ managed to get through Congress famously saying that this would doom the Democratic party to losing the South as a voting bloc. And so it did.
      Enter Richard Nixon and his Southern Strategy. Which is why, when Ronald Reagan announced his candidacy for the presidency he announced this in Philadelphia, Mississippi. Philadelphia, Mississippi has one claim to fame. It is where three young men who were there in a campaign to register blacks to vote were abducted and murdered. Schwerner, Chaney and Goodman. They were in their early 20’s and very idealistic. This town was a backwater and his announcement there was an open invitation to southern segregationist to come to the Republican party, which they did in droves.
      Reagan was the only president so far who proposed total repeal of the 60’s era Civil Rights legislation. All of it. They could not get total repeal. Not in the open light of day. So they settled for gutting the early enforcement mechanism through a Supreme Court decision.
      These people depicted in this video are a solid voting bloc that now vote GOP. Solid red.
      Progressive means you fix the damned water pipes so that whole urban populations, children and all, do not have to drink LEAD in their water. @#$$%$###$$%$$### ( Fill in appropriate cuss words)

      • Aynwrong

        Don’t shoot the messenger.

        • Badgerite

          I’m sorry. It is just that this is such transparently dishonest crap. And it is obviously to cover up the fact that the Dixiecrats are now the solid red south of the GOP camp and still trying to bring back methods of restricting and nullifying the voting rights of their minority populations. The red states of the south are some of the poorest in the country and the ones that benefit the most from federal tax dollars. Like in Kentucky, they vote against their own interests because……. why? Gays, blacks, etc. And heritage. And what heritage is that? Slave holding heritage.

          • Aynwrong

            Couldn’t agree more. Well said.

  • katanahamon

    Well, while Bubblegenius is waiting to name their Clinton soap, they could come out with “Feel The Burn” soap, with 25% capsaicin, “it cleans AND incapacitates!”