Bob and Chez Show

The Bob & Chez Show Presented by 7/28/16

Bob and Chez
Written by Bob and Chez

RELM_buttonHomegrown Demagogues: We Review President Obama's Triumphant DNC Address; History is Made Again; Passing the Baton; Making the Case for Hillary; Trump Isn't a 'Plans' Guy or a 'Facts' Guy; Obama and Reagan; Trump's Russia Scandal Deepens; Trump Hopes Russia Hacked Hillary's Email; Trump Has Brain Worms; The Dangers of Authoritarianism; and more. Brought to you by Bubble Genius, Harry's Razors, the Amazon Link and The Bowen Law Group.


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  • To add, when Hillary said something about Trump being small or tiny or something like that, I thought of this:

  • American voters are missing the big picture because they’re not rational actors. After the events of this week, seeing Trump’s behavior and his supporters’ reaction to his insanity, that’s the ONLY conclusion left. It’s not enough to say they’re simply ignorant or racist or bigoted…it’s all too simplistic an explanation. But understanding that he is playing to their feelings and some deep seated needs, is the only thing that makes sense.

  • katanahamon

    You know, the Muslim father whose son gave his life to protect his fellow servicemen said it best when he said regarding Trump “you haven’t sacrificed anything.” Yes, and on every level imaginable. Gets bored with wives..dumps them. Doesn’t want to serve in Vietnam..dodges the draft. Bottom line not looking good..declares bankruptcy..several times. Wants to run for president, yet hasn’t served a single day in any public capacity. Wants his own privacy..doesn’t submit his tax returns. Never a single sacrifice.

  • katanahamon

    I’m always so excited, I comment before I listen all the way through. But yeah..we are actually having to discuss Trump. We shouldn’t, but we are. Do we think these polls are remotely true? Can people actually be thinking about him as president? Cause, to me, that’s insane.

  • katanahamon

    Looking at the republican response, facts again, don’t matter. Trump demonstrated once again his ability to take the low road and instead of congratulating Hillary on her historic nomination, (like McCain did for Obama), and proved he isn’t fit for anything by tweeting something inane about Isis.

  • ProudLiberalAlways

    Between his intelligence, thoughtfulness, and sheer class, Barak Obama is the gold standard of presidents. He WILL be terribly missed! Ask any foreign leader, as well. (almost).

  • muselet

    Attacking Trump plays to his … well, I suppose “strength” will have to do. He delights in counterattacking, in trying to turn the tables. Someone, I misremember who, said yesterday or this morning that the right way to make the case against Trump is to do what Obama did: to point out just how small and petty and unworthy he is. As much fun as it is to watch Elizabeth Warren tear chunks out of the short-fingered vulgarian, it’s probably not very effective.

    Bob, Trump didn’t make a run at Michelle Obama, either. “When they go low, we go high” seems to bewilder him, knock him off his stride. He doesn’t know how to respond, so he doesn’t (much).

    Charlie Pierce has been waxing poetic this week—even dialing back his visceral hatred of Debbie Wasserman Schultz—and he loved Barack Obama’s indirect reference to Donald Trump. Pierce’s reaction:

    He almost swallowed the words “homegrown demagogues.” Compared to the rest of the passage, you had to seek it out, to find the way he linked the Republican nominee to fascists and communists and (gulp) jihadists. But the meaning was clear and the shot was clean. It was Ali, coming off the ropes in the eighth round in Zaire. There was an elegance to the way he threw it. There was an elegance and a purity to the way it landed. The boldness of the charge was the least part of its sting.

    “Don’t boo, vote.” That can’t be said enough.

    Bob, you’re right. Running for President is a can’t-lose proposition for Trump. If he loses, fine, his profile will be higher than ever and he’ll be able to sell more overpriced merchandise with his name on it. If he wins, fine, he’ll outsource running the country to someone who cares about trivia like that, then cash in in 2021 or 2025.

    Talking Points Memo this morning ran a piece under the headline: Conservatives Stunned By How Much They Liked Obama’s DNC Speech. Of course, a lot of them claimed it somehow embodied conservative values—yes, really—but that’s to be expected.

    In the good universe, Donald Trump’s announcement that he was running was greeted with hails of derisive laughter, then he disappeared from the public eye, never to be seen again. (I’d like to visit the good universe some time.)

    Damn, Barack Obama is quite an orator. I’m going to miss that.

    Bob, I’ve told this story before, but a few elections ago we Californians had a choice between a corrupt D and a conservative but borderline-sane R for Insurance Commissioner. I voted for the candidate of the Peace and Freedom Party. Until the GOP stops going barking mad, I won’t vote for an R, full stop (and I won’t vote for an idiot D, either).

    Vladimir Putin wants more than anything in the world to reestablish the USSR—or, perhaps more accurately, the Russian Empire—despite the cost. To make that easier, he’s going to give Trump as much help as he possibly can.

    Julian Assange is nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is. The term полезный дурак (useful idiot—”fool” is a better translation, apparently) was purpose-made for people like him. Putin would love to pin a big medal on Assange’s lapel, guaranteed.

    That was Donald Trump working without a net (or a script). He decided to riff on the DNC hack—which of course has nothing to do with the Hillary Clinton email non-scandal—and decided mid-sentence to make that otherwise inexplicable reference to Russian hackers. (And that was sarcasm in exactly the same way it was Classical Latin.)

    Chez, you think Paul Ryan has a soul? *rimshot*

    Guys, I don’t think Trump suffers dementia. ADD, quite possibly, combined with being ignorant and incurious (I used those words to describe GW Bush and I actually feel as if I was too harsh toward Bush). It’s a dangerous combination.


    • If you go to the Good Universe, can you take me with you? Being in the Bad Universe is giving me hives.

  • Scopedog

    Great show, guys.

    I am really going to miss Obama–sadly, I think a lot of us took him for granted. Now that November is approaching, I hope that many will wake up to the fact that there really is a clear choice for President and for where the country goes after Obama leaves office.

    As for the Bernie-or-Busters….well, they turned on Bernie so now they are only Busters, coalescing behind Jill Stein and remaining tone deaf to what is going on….or maybe not. I still feel that they really want aTrump win out of some sick notion of revenge on the DNC and Democrats in general for not feelin’ the Bern. And they’ve shown that they don’t care about Trump and Putin; they see all of this as a distraction from the real issue–the treachery of the DNC for not giving Bernie the crown.

    And I know that you guys didn’t bring him up, but I took apeek at H.A. Goodman’s Twitter feed….and I felt like the Dad from POLTERGEIST. I can’t figure out who’s more nuts–him or Trump.

    • Badgerite

      I thought the ‘real’ issue was the 1% and Wall Street reforms and income inequality, etc. Or doesn’t that matter anymore? What trump would bring would be the rise of the kind of oligarchic control of the country and the economy that Putin has brought to Russia. So they should stop trying to pretend that they care about these issues, if they do not actually care about these issues.

  • Badgerite

    I don’t know that you want a POTUS who would ‘joke’ about something like that. A president has to have a certain command of himself. Which, of course, trump has never and will never have.
    A command of himself, kind of like President Obama has. And an honesty and authenticity that cannot be feigned. God he was great.
    Those people in the Republican party should know that it is not about destroying their party. It is about reforming it so that it can give to the country the kind of leaders that the Democratic party has given to the country for the last 8 years.