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The Bubble Genius Bob & Chez Show 12/11/14

RELM_buttonGod Bless Those Mental Kids: Happy Birthday, Chez; New Audio from Conspiracy Theory Stooge Dan Bidondi; Bidondi and Those Mental Kids; Snowden Document on Angela Merkel Might Be Fake; The Torture Report; The Morality of War; Chuck C Johnson is Why We Need the Gatekeepers; and much more. Brought to you by Bubble Genius, the Amazon Link and The Bowen Law Group.

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  • LC

    As someone who has a developmentally disabled sister, Dan Bidondi’s “God bless those mental kids” was more offensive than his saying “retard” and “retarded” (even, as it was, over and over again); that’s just a thoughtless throwaway word. But his backpedaling revealed a condescension and a supposition that they have a proscribed ‘place’.

    And ‘kids’? Dan, my sister is 51, and has worked as a cashier throughout her adult life.

  • Victor the Crab

    “An’ I’duh gotn uhway wid it too, if it’duh hadunt uh been doze mentull kids!”

  • aynwrong

    Suggestion for a T shirt, the very first thing I ever heard Dan Bidondi say on this podcast:

    “Daaahhh… Da Daily Batnta…”

    • KABoink_after_wingnut_hacker

      X2…Excellent Idea!

  • HilaryB

    Ooh! You have to put “George Washington was a converservative” on a shirt. See 4/9/14 show. (One of my personal favorites).

  • Wendy Leigh Rank

    Listening to you guys laugh at Bidondi, I swear, it’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all week. Damn that shit is funny, sad but funny!

  • Badgerite

    I think Bidondi might just be the run-away, first stab at artificial intelligence that, sadly, went awry. One has to admit, it is an explanation.

  • DrTongue

    Goddammit that Bidondi shit is funny.

  • muselet

    Bob, I say this every year so let’s call it a holiday tradition: those countdown-to-Christmas spots are horrific and you’re a cruel, cruel man for playing them. (I do have a good excuse this year for being Harlequin late—to borrow a phrase from Harlan Ellison—but that doesn’t make me feel any less guilty about it.)

    Happy birthday, Chez. I vaguely remember being 45.

    George W Bush being kept uninformed about torture might have been about plausible deniability; it might also have been Dick Cheney (and David Addington and John Yoo and the rest of those ghouls) not being certain GWB could be counted on not to balk at some of the techniques being employed.

    Bob, you’re right about prosecuting the Bush Administration over torture. As I said earlier today, Anthony Romero may have the right idea: in the absence of prosecution, Barack Obama should pardon all the high-level people involved in the decision(s) to torture in order to make it clear to everyone that crimes were committed. I honestly don’t like the idea and it’s not emotionally satisfying, but it’s as good a solution as we’re likely to get.

    Peter King is welcome to sample the same techniques used by the Bush-era CIA on prisoners and render (see what I did there?) a verdict on whether they constitute torture. Until he does, he’s just another meatheaded terrorist supporter with a big mouth. Maybe he and Sean Hannity can get waterboarded together as a sort of double act, the cowards. (And Joe Walsh should experience rectal feeding for himself. Not because he’d learn a damn’ thing, but just because. I can be petty that way.)

    Chez, I understand on a purely gut level your ambivalence about torture, but torture says more about—and does more harm to—us than it does them. (Even Jayne Cobb recognized there are limits to what’s acceptable: “I mean, I’ll kill a man in a fair fight … or if I think he’s gonna start a fair fight, or if he bothers me, or if there’s a woman, or I’m gettin’ paid — mostly only when I’m gettin’ paid.”) And it’s been known for a very long time that a person being tortured will say whatever his/her torturer wants him/her to say just to make it stop. As a reliable means of eliciting accurate information, torture ranks at or very near the bottom of the list of techniques.

    As much as we laugh at Dan Bidondi—and I laugh nearly as hard as you guys—I stand by my amateur diagnosis of Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy. It’s easier for me to believe he’s suffered brain damage than to believe anyone is truly that dumb.


    • >>Bob, I say this every year so let’s call it a holiday tradition: those countdown-to-Christmas spots are horrific and you’re a cruel, cruel man for playing them.

      You sooooo get it. Thank you.

  • Victor the Crab

    God bless Dan Bidondi for being totally clueless about what a blithering idiot he is.