Bob and Chez Show

The Bubble Genius Bob & Chez Show, 2/2/12

Romney Loves Trump; The Clown Car Gets Clownier; Badgering Newt Gingrich; Medicare For All in California; Komen and Planned Parenthood; The Dead Fetus Super Bowl Commercial; Joe Biden Almost Does Apu; Who Will Be the Next Obama; and much more! Brought to you by Bubble Genius!

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  • JMAshby

    A quick note: I was aware that California was going to vote on single-payer, but I didn’t post about it because I knew it wasn’t going to pass.

    That’s no excuse, but it’s the truth.

    That there wasn’t a movement to help pass it, and virtually no mention of it from the professional left, is certainly an indictment.

    We’re all at fault I suppose.

  • Don’t count out Ed Rendell, shrewd shrewd politician

  • JackDaniel07

    Even Joe Biden knows you never go Full Apu

  • I’ve been thinking the same thing about Elizabeth Warren, too. Does she have the charisma? I think so, though not in the same way that President Obama has gravity or President Clinton had wink-of-the-eye slyness. Instead, I think she has a charisma built around populist outrage. She’s capable of explaining things that we all agree on in a way that makes sense to apolitical people, and that’s really important, because it will help her make headway with soft-values voters (a spot where President Obama does brilliant). Even more, give her a couple of years and a few gray hairs, and she’s going to remind people fondly of their grandma—and that’s powerful.

    It’s hard for women to do well in politics — really, there’s so much more expectation on them than on men, and there is still a glass ceiling, but Elizabeth Warren comes the closest to breaking it since Hilary.

    There can be no argument about her bona fides, either, and, wow, talk about shifting the Overton window left.

    Still, she’d be nothing with a wishy-washy Congress.

  • I agree. If Warren is elected to the senate, she will be the next Dem candidate for president.

    Bob, Clinton does not want to run again. Stop it! 🙂

  • Re: Next Dem president: I think Elizabeth Warren is a great liberal asset, along the lines of Ted Kennedy, but I think she lacks the center appeal necessary to run for president. I would love to see Al Franken as a candidate, I think he’s got Warren’s lib cred but also boatloads of wit and charm.

  • villemar

    “Achtung Baby” is absolutely on my top three list; have you seen the documentary “From the Sky Down” about the making of that album? It’s really very good. I’m in you and Chez’s exact same demographic and that album was pivotal for me personally and I think culturally. Finally it felt like we had finally cast off the eighties and had entered a new era, and the incorporation of traditional rock sensibility with an embrace of the electronic, which previous to that had a cheesiness to it; and I think was a precursor to the good electronica that came within the next few years. I could go on on this, anyways check that doc out, it’s definitely worth seeing.

    Songs themselves are a harder nut to crack. For me, personally, I’d have to say Joy Division”Love Will Tear Us Apart” is probably my favorite of all time. It’s perfect. And leading into what Chez was saying, New Order’s 2001 release was pretty spectacular. And my favorite New Order from the 2000’s? “Here to Stay” from the 24 Hour Party People soundtrack. That’s just amazing and fits in so perfectly with that movie.

    • ranger11

      Best U2 album from start to finish. Blows “Joshua Tree” out of the water. Although I kind of have a soft spot for “Pop”, I don’t know why.

      • I love POP. One gripe: it sounds like it was recorded and mixed through a pair of socks. I don’t know why but it sounds muffled.

        • villemar

          Pop was released somewhat unfinished. IIRC, they committed to a hard deadline in January 1997 and kept to it so that they could start touring immediately with the PopMart tour, which was so logistically elaborate that it couldn’t be pushed back. So it’s quite possible that it hadn’t been properly mastered.

          The funny thing about those songs from that album is that they evolved as they played them live. Although two of my favorites, Do You Feel Love? and Starting At The Sun (probably my favorite off that album) were good to go out the gate, some of my other favorites off that album (Gone, Last Night on Earth, Velvet Dress) were really perfected on that tour and some “finished” versions off that album were released later as B-sides, which they just called Single Versions or Radio Versions. U2 have been pretty good about the 20 year reissues, so I’m sure all that’ll come out. And for the PopMart tour (which I got to see fortunately), there’s a bootleg out there, video too (I think it was shown on Showtime or something) of them playing in Mexico City in ’97, which is floating around and pretty easy to obtain. Worth seeing. Pop did get a bit slagged by the press, but it’s definitely an underrated album.

          • I saw that tour live at Franklin Field (stadium) in Philadelphia and concluded during the show that POP was more about the spectacle of the tour than the album itself. It was really the only logical direction they could go after ZooTV, Zooropa (another underrated and often forgotten album) and Achtung.

            Still, I’d love to remaster that album.

  • muselet

    Endorsing Mitt Romney costs Donald Trump nothing, although it probably hurts Romney among the half-dozen or so sane Republicans left. Using Newt Gingrich to elevate his public profile makes sense for both Trump and Gingrich. Both of them are thin-skinned, petty narcissists, so for the two of them to use each other for self-promotion makes perfect sense. (Chez, what the hell is wrong with you? Neither I nor anyone else needs to know anything at all about Mark Halperin’s trousers tent. You owe me for a 55-gallon drum of brain bleach, and even that might not be enough. *shudders*)

    On the subject of The Donald: twenty-odd years ago, the man who was hired to run Donald Trump’s first casino in Atlantic City wrote a book about his experience (probably John R. O’Donnell, Trumped!: The Inside Story of the Real Donald Trump—His Cunning Rise and Spectacular Fall, but I can’t swear to it). According to him, Trump went ballistic when someone wandered in off the street, played something under ten bucks on the slots and won a huge jackpot. Trump, if the book can be believed, spent a not inconsiderable amount of time screaming and yelling, demanding to know how it was possible for someone to win that much without dropping lots of money first. “That’s just the way it is,” he was told, patiently and politely. “Sometimes people just get lucky. This is a good thing. The average punter will read about this, think it could be him and come to your casino to play the slots. Most of them will lose money. That’s where the money for this jackpot will come from.” Trump kept insisting this was unacceptable, that people should be made to spend a certain amount before they were allowed to win big money. The author’s conclusion was that Donald Trump knew nothing about running a casino and cared even less. What a surprise, huh?

    Donald Trump has a standard response when someone talks about his bankruptcies: “I’ve never declared bankruptcy in my life! How dare you! That’s a lie!” all said in a loud, hectoring tone. Which is true, in a very narrow and very specific sense: The Donald has never personally declared bankruptcy, although his businesses have.

    Bob, I’m a lifelong Californian. I read two newspapers every day, plus two alt-weeklies. I listen to public radio regularly, including the almost-but-not-quite all-news KPCC. I read California-centric blogs on the interwebs. I saw and heard nothing—zero, zip, nada, not one word—about a single-payer bill in the state. I don’t mean to be a bore about this, but if we had actual news media in this country, stuff like this bill wouldn’t come and go without anyone noticing. You can blame the idiots in the progressive movement who go off and pout when things don’t go exactly the way they want for a lot of things, but not this.

    Just so you know, “Desert Island Discs” just celebrated its 70th anniversary on the BBC. You read that right: 70 years.

    “This Republican war against women, this demonization of Planned Parenthood, has seriously put lives at risk.” I couldn’t agree more.

    –alopecia