The TPs, on the other had, are just angry that a democrat is in the White House.

Corporatists like the Koch Roaches are using the tea party republic to neuter government and make it irrelevant. They are the ones talking anarchy. These sleazy corporatists want a totally lawless business environment so that they can take over all aspects of infrastructure that citizens count on the government to implement. The tea party republic doesn’t comprehend what is happenning because they are disconnected from reality.

“But I always believed OWS was about the crimes and malfeasance that created the current economic mess and how government needs to reinstate Glass-Steagall and enforce laws like the Sherman Anti-Trust Act in order to roll back the conditions that allowed all of this to happen. While we’re here, why not create an environment that builds the middle class instead of killing it?

So it’s entirely consistent to support corporate accountability while simultaneously using corporate products.”

No one believes that the TP in the aggregate is even the least bit interested in “limited government,” nor even understands what that might mean. They’re only interested in “limiting” government to the extent of having only Republican presidents; they’re only “against” government and they only call for it to be “limited” during Democratic administrations. They’ve been programmed to believe the “big government tax-and-spend liberal” meme that dates back to Nixon but hasn’t been true, if it was ever true at all, since Nixon.

This is the same cohort that in 2004 enthusiastically elected an administration and a congressional majority that had together blown up a balanced budget, created the largest new bureaucracy in over half a century, and enacted the most sweeping curtailment of individual liberty since the Alien and Sedition Acts. In other words, everything they say they’re against today, they voted for in 2004, and did so with vehement enthusiasm.

The Tea Party is nothing more or less than a GOP Fan Club. Everything else is made-up post hoc justification for voting Republican. That the GOP has never actually practiced “limited government” nor made any actual attempt to “limit” government while holding the White House is immaterial.

Adam Smith and Karl Marx both viewed economics as part of the social fabric of society and each in his own way viewed the government, the owners of production, the workers, and consumers as principles in a social contract. The contract evolved into the corporation. An entity that wishes to incorporate must file articles of incorporation and bylaws. These spell out rights and responsibilities.

Problems occured almost immediately as governments and corporations over reached. Two prime examples here in the US were The Whiskey Rebellion and The Civil War. In 1792 the excise tax on whiskey production hit poor producers harder than wealthy producers. The attempt by southern states to spread slavery to the west caused the civil war.

Now, the corporations have won. Capitalism as we know it is gone and has been replaced by corporatism. The social Darwinists and their minions are trying to subvert the will of a majority of the people. How did this happen? The corporations over reached and nobody stood up to say stop. Now, we have the tea party republic enabling the corporatists in their final push to make governement irrelevant. How disconnected from reality can people be? The idea behind Occupy Wall Street is too restore the social contract that Adam Smith and Karl Marx espoused.

Do you read what you type before you click “Post”?

Then again, by the same token, a lot of Tea Partiers are probably not against government building roads, maintaining sidewalks, installing and powering streetlamps and traffic lights, and so forth.

Naturally, it’s up to the individual just how categorical and generalized his “protest” or “opposition” is. My impression is that the TP’s anti-government protests are more generalized than OWS, but I certainly can’t speak for everyone in either OWS or the TP. Everyone has to decide for himself what he’s “against,” and whether the expression jibes with the behavior.

I think what’s more pertinent here is that, generally speaking, OWS is protesting something real while the TP came out to protest, inter alia, nonexistent tax hikes and imaginary death panels in a fictitious health-care law. Not to mention that, again in the aggregate, the TP is made up of the same cohort that in 2004 enthusiastically re-elected an administration and a congressional majority that had together taken a balanced budget and purposefully thrown it grotesquely out of balance, created the largest new federal bureaucracy since the New Deal, and passed the most sweeping curtailment of individual liberty since the Alien and Sedition Acts. That’s the hypocrisy.

I think a small fact is overlooked, of all presidents elected in the last 20 years, W. included, President Obama received more money from Wall Street then any other president. In some ways, it would have been difficult for him to be elected without the Wall. Also noting Pres. Obama voted for the bailout, as did most repub’s, which is exactly, I believe what the OWS is so up in arms about. Oh, and allows GE CEO to head up the jobs czar position, and lets the corp. get away with not paying “their fair share” in taxes. On the surface his credibility towards this group seems a little hypocritical.

Also noting, roads/parks/some schooling/some safety net are all wonderful, but the Tea Party I think wants to limit it to that, the bare essentials. Were not talking Anarchy here, as some in the OWS demand, were talking limited gov’t, I think that point is commonly misstated.