Comments on: Outreach https://www.bobcesca.com/outreach-21/ We Cover The World Mon, 28 Apr 2014 18:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.7 By: Christopher Foxx https://www.bobcesca.com/outreach-21/#comment-67233 Mon, 28 Apr 2014 18:49:00 +0000 https://www.bobcesca.com/?p=82922#comment-67233 In reply to mrbrink.

Women in every instance of the economic ladder are represented in the commentary

Which, if you read what I actually wrote, is why I took that to also be the case in the particular part of the commentary I referred to.

what do you call criticizing the attentiveness and specificity of a post

On the contrary. If (again) you go and understand what I actually wrote you’ll see it was a lack of specificity that prompted my initial question.

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By: Christopher Foxx https://www.bobcesca.com/outreach-21/#comment-67232 Mon, 28 Apr 2014 18:42:00 +0000 https://www.bobcesca.com/?p=82922#comment-67232 In reply to JMAshby.

I have noticed that you’re not a sexist douche. Hence my surprise and my actually asking you what you meant. And my carefully explaining why, given the wording, I read it as I did. Given Sabyen91’s comment and the upvotes it got, I’m not the only one.

I have noticed that you’re not a sexist douche. I also have noticed that you’re very sensitive and insulting when folks comment on your writing.

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By: Churchlady320 https://www.bobcesca.com/outreach-21/#comment-67214 Mon, 28 Apr 2014 02:23:00 +0000 https://www.bobcesca.com/?p=82922#comment-67214 In reply to JMAshby.

You are not a sexist douche. I am woman, too, and you speak the truth. Thank you.

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By: Churchlady320 https://www.bobcesca.com/outreach-21/#comment-67213 Mon, 28 Apr 2014 02:22:00 +0000 https://www.bobcesca.com/?p=82922#comment-67213 In reply to la bibliotequetress.

Brava! Yes, women mostly raise the kids. As one who does not have children, I worked the long hours and STILL got paid less. Years ago I came into the break room at a MAJOR corporation to see my job posted – every detail of what I did – offered to MEN who wanted to do it at $40 per week more than I was making because doing it would lead to a MANAGEMENT position. I had no children, did the job, could not even apply for my OWN JOB. This was in the days before it was illegal to do what they did. And that’s what the good ol’ white boys want BACK.

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By: muselet https://www.bobcesca.com/outreach-21/#comment-67211 Sun, 27 Apr 2014 20:36:00 +0000 https://www.bobcesca.com/?p=82922#comment-67211 In reply to D_C_Wilson.

Absolutely. They’ve convinced themselves that people doing women’s work are simply not good enough or smart enough or dedicated enough to get a Real Job that pays decently.

I’d love for them to live for 24 hours in a world without waitstaff, hairstylists, and nurses and aides (and, at the high end, receptionists and PAs). Not because they’d learn anything from the experience, but simply because it would be funny.

–alopecia

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By: D_C_Wilson https://www.bobcesca.com/outreach-21/#comment-67210 Sun, 27 Apr 2014 20:00:00 +0000 https://www.bobcesca.com/?p=82922#comment-67210 In reply to muselet.

The GOP is now completely married to the ideology that people who make more money always work harder, are better looking, and just naturally more deserving than people who make less money. Therefore, the only explaination for making less money is that you aren’t working hard enough. Waitresses would wear their feet out hauling trays of food around for hours while living on tips or nurses working ten hour shifts slogging through blood and shit just don’t exist on their world.

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By: D_C_Wilson https://www.bobcesca.com/outreach-21/#comment-67209 Sun, 27 Apr 2014 19:54:00 +0000 https://www.bobcesca.com/?p=82922#comment-67209 Remember when it used to be considered embarrassing to say stuff like this outloud?

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By: la bibliotequetress https://www.bobcesca.com/outreach-21/#comment-67204 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 22:15:00 +0000 https://www.bobcesca.com/?p=82922#comment-67204 In reply to mrbrink.

Woman, here. I didn’t take offense at it because, like it or not (and I don’t) women still are the primary childcare providers in the US, shouldering quite a bit more of that responsibility even when living with the child’s father and NOT a single mother. In 2011, Pew found that in comparing working mothers and working fathers, the mothers spent twice the time on childcare, and almost twice the time on housework, as their male partners.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/03/14/modern-parenthood-roles-of-moms-and-dads-converge-as-they-balance-work-and-family/

The Bureau of Labor Statistics backs this up. Correlation is not causation, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the slightly lesser amount of time women spend at paid employment each day was related to the considerably greater amount of time she spends on household and family tasks.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/atus.nr0.htm

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By: la bibliotequetress https://www.bobcesca.com/outreach-21/#comment-67203 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 22:04:00 +0000 https://www.bobcesca.com/?p=82922#comment-67203 All that risky and hard lawyering and programming and insurance selling and pastry chefing. it’s just amazing the menfolk live to the end of the work day.

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By: mrbrink https://www.bobcesca.com/outreach-21/#comment-67199 Sat, 26 Apr 2014 09:34:00 +0000 https://www.bobcesca.com/?p=82922#comment-67199 In reply to Christopher Foxx.

I thought it was very clear because it is. Women in every instance of the economic ladder are represented in the commentary. Stop trying to get one over on one of the most consistent– logically and ethically– voices of reason you will ever encounter in Ashby.

For some special deference paid to over 12 million single mothers, most of whom are working longer and harder for less and while raising roughly 20 million children in this country, you pull out the irony stick?

They could use a little preferential treatment in a discussion about equal pay for women, even while minding the context of the “institutional norms” that oppress us all for fuck’s sake.

If this is irony to you, what do you call criticizing the attentiveness and specificity of a post that highlights the considerable income disparity facing not only women in general, but women who are raising 20 million children in this country? Chivalry?

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