Healthcare

Ryan On 15 Million Losing Coverage: Oh Well

JM Ashby
Written by JM Ashby

Speaker of the Lizard House Paul Ryan appeared on the Hugh Hewitt radio show this morning where he was asked to respond to the Brookings estimation that at least 15 million people will lose coverage under his plan.

Ryan implied that he isn't worried about how many people are covered because he'll never win that battle.

“We always know, you’re never going to win a coverage beauty contest when it’s free market versus government mandates,” Ryan told radio host Hugh Hewitt, after Hewitt floated the possibility that the CBO would estimate 15 million people will lose health insurance because of the American Health Care Act.

The irony being that Ryan's bill does include a half-assed mandate that manages to be both more punitive than the Obamacare mandate and less effective. And Ryan's mandate will be paid directly to insurers, many whom hold de facto monopolies over entire regions. So much for the "free market."

But I digress. Ryan doesn't see Americans as unique human beings; we're all just numbers on one of his spreadsheets. We're a pie chart in his Power Point presentation.

Who needs robot overlords determined to convert us all into batteries when you have Paul Ryan?

  • Michael B. Conway

    Evil! Pure and simple, by way of the 8th dimension!

  • muselet

    As Charlie Pierce constantly points out, the only reason Paul Ryan managed to climb the greasy pole to where he is now is because the rest of us paid his Social Security survivor benefits after his father fell of his perch when Ryan was in high school (Pierce makes a point of adding, “You’re welcome, dickhead,” whenever the subject comes up).

    This is what it means to have a society: we help one another. Otherwise, you don’t have a society, you have Hobbes’s bellum omnia contra omnes. In weak moments, I’d be happy to see Paul Ryan chased into the wilderness and forced to eat Ayn Rand novels for the rest of his miserable existence—since everything Rand ever wrote is toxic nonsense, he wouldn’t last long—but then I realize he’s as much a part of society as the homeless guy who sleeps outside the bus station, if somewhat less productive.

    I propose this as a compromise: Ryan can bleat all he wants about The Holy Free Market (hallowed be its name!) when he pays back his socialistical SS benefits and buys his own damn’ health insurance on the individual market.

    Arsehole.

    –alopecia

  • fry1laurie

    Democrats need to offer an amendment saying that Congress would be subject to the new health care bill, and lose its gold-plated plan they currently have. I know it would fail, but it’d show Drumpf supporters (they are like jockstraps, aren’t they) that the GOPigs are no populists.

  • Badgerite
  • Badgerite

    There are certain things that you do not want to have to rely on the “free market” for.
    Response to fires. Accidents. Crime. National security. And I would add your health. You are a captive consumer in those situations. You cannot afford to walk away and not purchase. It is your life or the life of your loved one, after all. What the F is this idiot talking about? And if you face a serious health crisis, there is absolutely no way you can “save up” enough to pay for care. He is aware, these are his own constituents he is talking about, isn’t he?
    As with fires and crime and accidents and national security, this is something that our society as a whole has an interest in maintaining certain standards in for the whole community. A healthy society is after all objectively better than a sick one.
    Prenatal care is important to all of society. Is it not? It affects the infant mortality rate after all.
    So far, the GOP agenda seems to be massive tax cuts for the 1% funded by attacking the very popular safety net of Social Security, Medicare, the Affordable Care Act.
    Not because the proposed tax cuts will affect job creation. As was noted, the jobs reports have been positive for the last 48 months. So tax cuts are not needed for that to occur as it has already occurred and has been occurring right along for years now.
    Tax cuts will not bring back coal. Tax cuts will not affect trade deficits. So what exactly are these massive tax cuts to the already exceedingly wealthy in our society supposed to provide to the rest of us in that society? Other than poverty.

  • Scopedog
  • Nefercat

    Ryan:
    People dying = not looking pretty.

    Roast in hell, Ryan.

  • Nefercat

    I know it isn’t how the church does things, but oh how I would like to see Pope Francis publicly tell Ryan that as a very prominent Catholic giving a bad impression of the Church, he is hereby excommunicated until he can get a grip on What Jesus Would Do.

    • Christopher Foxx

      The might require the Pope to act like a Christian.

  • ninjaf

    “We always know, you’re never going to win a coverage beauty contest when it’s free market versus government mandates,” Ryan told radio host Hugh Hewitt, after Hewitt floated the possibility that the CBO would estimate 15 million people will lose health insurance because of the American Health Care Act.

    So, in other words, if it is something that everyone needs or has a right to, then it needs to be done by the government or it won’t be done right. Gotcha. We’ll remember that going forward. Thanks for the info! 😉

  • Aynwrong

    The ability of Conservatives to brush reality aside so casually never fails to amaze. It’s telling that they always have a dismissive phrase like that ready to go. I mean, who else would think of something as vital as healthcare coverage as a “beauty contest” other than a typical Conservative asshole?

    “Who needs robot overlords determined to convert us all into batteries when you have Paul Ryan?”

    I prefer my dystopian sci-fi references to be Borg related. But well played.