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Spencer Ackerman -- You might know Spencer from his reporting for The Daily Beast, WIRED, The Guardian, and The New Republic. He's also the author of a brand new book called Reign Of Terror: How The 9/11 Era Destabilized America And Produced Trump. The book takes a hard and often harrowing look at how 9/11 led us on an inevitable path to Afghanistan, Iraq, the exploitation of fear, and the war on terror itself. We also discussed the American withdrawal from Afghanistan and whether the chaos was inevitable. Meantime, if you dig this show, make sure to sign up for our bonus content at bobcescashow.com.