Immigration

Trump Didn’t Consult the Secretary Responsible for His Stupid Muslim Ban

JM Ashby
Written by JM Ashby

Implementing and enforcing any immigration policy requires the cooperation of customs and border patrol which falls under the jurisdiction of the Department of Homeland Security, but our Moron in Chief did not even consult Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly before signing his order.

Secretary Kelly reportedly learned about the executive order by watching television.

Gen. John F. Kelly, the secretary of homeland security, had dialed in from a Coast Guard plane as he headed back to Washington from Miami. Along with other top officials, he needed guidance from the White House, which had not asked his department for a legal review of the order.

Halfway into the briefing, someone on the call looked up at a television in his office. “The president is signing the executive order that we’re discussing,” the official said, stunned.

This undoubtedly contributed to the patchwork of confusion that erupted over the weekend. The agency responsible for implementing the order had no guidance at all and relied almost entirely on low level superiors interpreting Trump's unconstitutional order for themselves.

With that said, some agents at airports across the country refused to comply with court orders that were physically handed to them in person and even refused to cooperate with elected representatives and senators. This weekend's events were a reminder that there are willing jackboots serving in our nation's security apparatus.

Based on what we know, it appears the White House either ignored or did not seek legal advice before Trump signed the order. The other possibility is Trump's crony legal advisers gave it the Okay. Trump seemingly does whatever Steve Bannon tells him to do.

  • swift_4

    I think it’s possible that Trump thinks that just because he signs a paper, things will automatically work the way he expects. I think that he believes the very nature of reality bends to his will.

  • Aynwrong

    Naturally the first defense we heard for this weekend’s debacle was to point to Barack Obama and say it was his idea. As though anything like this ever happened during the last 8 years. Innocent people all over the world are going to have their lives turned upside down for years and America will spend generations trying to repair the damage that will be inflicted by the “Moron in Chief.” Just like the last time.

    I will never forgive the idiots & assholes who put these monsters into power.

    • Badgerite

      If it can be repaired at all. And here is the next thing up. From Bloomberg.
      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/article/2017/01/30/trump-s-next-move-on-immigration-to-hit-closer-to-home-for-tech
      George Takei:
      “Trump is now targeting H1-B visas in draft EO. This is insane.”
      This will affect the tech industry bigly.

      • I’ve been debating whether I should take my money out of the market…I mean, if it crashes what little I have in retirement will crash. I’m at a loss as to what to do….Are we at the point where the mattress is a safer bet than the market or the bank?

        • Badgerite

          Mattress? I wouldn’t. But IRA at bank is covered by FDIC. So there’s that.
          At least it is at mine.

          • I don’t trust anything that Herr Hair and his Goldman Sachs’ lackey’s can touch and that includes the FDIC.

          • Badgerite

            Oh oh. That’s pretty bad. There is the canned goods in the bunker option but….. I think that the way this guy is going, he is so jeopardizing the actual and real interests of this country, that I don’t know how long this can go on. You know, he lost the popular vote by a whopping amount and if the election were held today the center, center-left, the left and far-left would probably be united and energized sufficiently to throw this guy and maybe a junk of the GOP out. These actions are sooooo foolish even in terms of our national security, especially in terms of our national security, that I just don’t see how this can be countenanced. Michael Moore was right. He is going to get our people killed. Russia is already moving back into Afghanistan and working with the Taliban. If Russia were to get their hands on intelligence that indicated that the United States was going to be hit by a large scale terror attack, does anyone really believe that Putin and the FSB would let us know? I’m quite sure they would not.

          • Totally agree. And if they’re this bad a inter-departmental communication, imagine what it would be like in a war or emergency situation. Also, too, I read the other day about Russia’s increasing support of the Taliban and it all fell into place. Putin has been planning this all along, starting with Snowden, and maybe even before that. I’ve never believed a conspiracy theory nonsense but there are far too many things going on here that all lead back to Russia. We are in deep, deep trouble because Herr Orangenfuhrer doesn’t want to see what a threat Putin really is.

    • Scopedog

      Yeah, I saw the finger-pointing at Obama too.

      And guess what–it wasn’t just the GOP and Trump’s crack lickers, but even some on the far Left. Because some of those fools still think that there is no difference between Obama and Trump, and the Democrats and the GOP.

      Fuck…I really hate these people. And like you, I will not forgive.

      • Aynwrong

        Awesome clip. I’ve always loved that scene. And it’s exactly how I feel.

  • muselet

    A normal administration would have turned to someone other than Rudy Giuliani to draft an executive order. A normal administration would have had the Office of Legal Counsel carefully go over a proposed executive order. A normal administration would have ensured all affected departments would have procedures in place before an executive order was signed. A normal administration would not have used an executive order to single out a religious group for discriminatory treatment. A normal administration would not have countenanced CBP agents defying court orders and elected officials.

    This is not a normal administration.

    –alopecia

    • Georgie

      And rudy giuliani let it slip this weekend that drumpf asked for the “Muslim Ban” and requested he assemble a commission to show him “the right way to do it legally.” They know/knew it was racist.

      • Badgerite

        That’s intent to discriminate on the basis of religion right there.

      • Aynwrong

        It’s like what the courts said about voter restrictions in North Carolina. It was done with “surgical precision.” Now they’re demanding we not believe our own eyes & ears.

    • A normal administration would not have avoided putting a ban on countries in which the Asshole in Chief had businesses. And the fact that they used 9/11 to justify it but didn’t ban Saudi Arabians, the origin of most of the 9/11 attackers, is absolute bullshit.