Russia

Trump and Putin Held a Secret Meeting

JM Ashby
Written by JM Ashby

News broke late last night that Trump and Vladimir Putin held a private, off the record meeting at the G20 summit earlier this month.

Not to be confused with the formal meeting between the two, Cobra Commander and Serpentor met privately a second time that was previously undisclosed.

The second conversation between Trump and Putin took place during a dinner for the Group of 20 heads of state and their spouses in Hamburg, said Ian Bremmer, the president of political risk consultancy Eurasia Group, who was first to report the meeting in a note to clients. [...]

Bremmer said Trump got up from his seat halfway through dinner and spent about an hour talking "privately and animatedly" with Putin, "joined only by Putin's own translator."

For Trump to hold a secret meeting with no one from his staff or cabinet present would be concerning even if he were conversing with a western European ally, but Trump held a secret meeting with Putin; the man who helped him get elected.

We have no record of what the two of them discussed, but the Russians do. Putin was accompanied by a translator that Trump relied on. They may even have an audio recording of the conservation for all we know.

Even if you don't believe they discussed anything controversial, Trump has no way to prove that they didn't. The Russians could accuse him of virtually anything and he would have no way to refute it. That's leverage.

  • Ken Kohl

    The meeting wasn’t secret; the issue is that it was unchaperoned

  • Badgerite

    Putin own’s trump.

  • Badgerite
  • muselet

    I’ve lost count of the number of times Donald Trump violated protocol by having that conversation, even if all he and Vladimir Putin did was complain about the weather and exchange borscht recipes.

    Aside from that minor detail, Trump put himself in an inferior negotiating position by approaching Putin. Then he talked with Putin for an hour with only a Russian translator—I’m guessing he’s not just a translator—as a witness. An 18-year-old Business Administration major knows better than that.

    Yeah, that there’s some masterful negotiating on display.

    –alopecia

    • I was flabbergasted that he used Putin’s translator. It boggles the mind….

      • ninjaf

        Trump is unable to think of himself as anything other than the smartest person in the room at all times. And it often leaves him looking the fool and leaves our country in a weakened position.

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    • ninjaf

      I made the same observation last night: HE went to PUTIN, not the other way around. I even saw some video from the dinner where Trump is speaking across the table and down from where he is sitting to Putin. So, yeah. Trump blinked. Some masterful negotiator he is!

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    • Victor the Crab

      Yeah, that there’s some masterful negotiating on display.

      The mouth cock holsters of Drumph’s at Fox News would take that line and spin it into something extremely positive for their gaggle of mouth breathing, room temperature IQ Drumph believers.

      • muselet

        That’s why I keep saying HTML needs a “sarcasm” tag.

        –alopecia

    • Badgerite

      Thing is, this assumes good faith and non criminality on the part of trump. And I don’t think that can be assumed anymore. As far as I’m concerned, that meeting and all the attempts at “back channel” communications starting with the suspicious Alfa Bank server in Moscow communicating exclusively with a server in trump tower, going on to Kushner wanting a line directly from the Russian embassy in America to Moscow and now trump meeting with Putin in person and alone, looks for all the world like a mob meeting that wants to make sure that law enforcement can’t hear them as they conspire to break the laws of the country. Check it out. trump does everything but kiss the “Godfather’s” hand.
      https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/887799877152854016

  • 1933john

    Trump: “Where’s my debt forgiveness, Pooty?
    Putin: “If it was up your ass, you’d know where
    it was, and don’t call me Pooty!”