Bob Cesca Show

The Bob Cesca Show Presented By BubbleGenius.com 6/22/17

Bob Cesca
Written by Bob Cesca

RELM_buttonRatf*ckery: Kimberley Johnson from the Start Me Up podcast is here today; The Trump Crisis Day 154; Trump's Iowa Rally; Trump said there aren't any tapes; Did Trump destroy the tapes?; We dig deeply into whether Russians changed the results of the election; 21 state election systems targeted by Russians; GOP data firm leaked the names of 200 million voters; Putin's fake video; The Senate healthcare bill is an atrocity; and much more. Brought to you by Bubble Genius, Harry's Razors, Blue Apron, the BobCesca.com Amazon Link and The Bowen Law Group.

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  • I think you got the gist of the thing just right Thursday:
    We have to abandon our Presumption of Regularity – particularly in regard to 45* and his helpmates. None of this is regular. Stop thinking you can understand any of 2016 Election (or what’s going on now, right under our noses) by seeing it thru the usual filter of normality.

    Second – with this dumbass Electoral College system, national elections turn on a whopping 15-20 votes per precinct in only 4 or 5 states. Too many to try outright fraud by Voter Impersonation, but just enough to throw it the direction you prefer if you can push down on the other side in narrowly-targeted districts. ie: Voter ID, Vote Caging, and what the Trumpkin-Russkies pulled off – creating & fomenting disunity in the retail-level debate and a little confusion on the Dems’ side by way of the Registration Rolls.

    And your point is dead on when talking about Dems losing close ones in all 4 Special Elections – it should serve as a strong indicator that the Rat-Fuckery continues.

  • Don P

    Regarding the Wash. Post article: It’s at this point that I insert the standard reminder that 2 people in particular warned us of Russian interference last fall. One was Harry Reid, the other got 65 million votes and had an affinity for pantsuits.

    I truly think if the Russian investigation plays out as far as I think it goes, it will lop off most of the Executive branch, and Ryan, McConnel and Nunez at a minimum from the Legislative. Note to Jared Kushner: on the first day in prison, find the biggest guy in the yard, walk right up to him…..and marry his daughter.

  • I have no faith that ANY of the GOP who currently oppose the AHCA (the Anti-Healthcare Act) will end up actually voting against it. Many of them will have amendments added making it even worse (hard to imagine, I know) and they’ll turn to supporting it. I’ll still call my Senators (McCain and Flake who are great at acting concerned but really shitty about voting based on that concern).

    I’m 47 and my health is not getting any better. I have 3 pre-existing conditions and for now, I have insurance via my hubby. In two years time when he retires, the insurance goes away. He will have insurance via his tribe but I can’t get insurance that way. So I’ll have to rely on the market and with this legislation, I will be royally screwed. And as bad as that sounds it’s nothing compared to my friend who is a hemophiliac who has had to rely on free and experimental drugs from pharmaceutical companies even with the ACA. Without it, he will die, literally die within a few weeks time. It’s a miracle he’s lived as long as he has functioning as a human guinea pig for those sociopathic corporations, but still….. It makes me so angry to know the GOP is willing to let people die over just so they and their friends can get richer. It’s just plain evil.

  • Badgerite

    About that Washington Post article…. Correct me if I am wrong, but perhaps the DNC emails hack stuff and Wikileaks was more of an intended distraction by the Russian FSB than the actual target or purpose of their activity. They, of all people, know that Hilary Clinton is clean and they are not going to find any real incriminating communications there. So perhaps the real target was what was given to the GOP to use which was then used in a Congressional race in Florida. Perhaps the target was DNC campaign strategy and voter information. It defies logic to think that if such information was acquired from Russian hackers in one instance, it was not acquired and used in others. The tracks were not covered as well in Florida but one cannot assume and it would not comport with the way humans work to think that this did not happen in other states or that it did not happen in Florida in the presidential race as well as in other crucial states. I’m guessing the real target of the FSB hacks was campaign intelligence that was then given covertly to the trump campaign and any other GOP campaigns that trump people thought important. The DNC emails and the use of Wikileaks was just to try to give it a veneer that would appeal to more gullible young voters and Sanders supporters. I think the real meat of what Russian intelligence was after was something other than Hilary Clinton’s emails. And I think they got that information and gave it to other people, in this country, to use. And as Hilary Clinton herself said, to precisely target to affect the electoral result.

    • Scopedog

      The DNC emails and the use of Wikileaks was just to try to give it a veneer that would appeal to more gullible young voters and Sanders supporters.

      Which fits into what was described in the Steele Dossier–the Russians were depending on this to turn voters, especially young voters, against Hillary.

      • Badgerite

        Yes, but I think there was even more going on than that. I think that Russian intelligence had a multi pronged attack in mind. And I think the particular role of Wikileaks and the DNC emails to alienate Sanders voters was just the tip of what was truly involved here.
        With all the information that has come to light now about DNC campaign information worth “millions of dollars” of research that was given to GOP operatives in Florida, and the hacking of voter information and the computers of election officials in at least 29 states, I think it is obvious that the trump ‘presidency’ is not legitimate.

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  • Badgerite

    Not to complain and nothing against other guest but I was seriously looking forward to hearing from Eric Garland as he has been early and right about a lot and also this.
    https://twitter.com/ericgarland/status/878268709420257280

    • How much interference? Well if Dems were in power even the hint of interference would have been enough for it (not to mention a hint of collusion would have been grounds for impeachment). With the GOP, however, the interference would have to include murders in all fifty states with Russian agents caught smoking guns in hand. And even then it would be a squeaker.

      //feeling very cynical today

      • Badgerite

        Hard not to.

      • Badgerite

        Probably “all fifty states” and the territories of Puerto Rico and Guam.

    • Kimberley

      He had a family emergency. He’ll be on with Bob soon.

      • Badgerite

        Oh. 🙂

  • ProudLiberalAlways

    Look at it this way, Rump played the intimidate Comey card, and the former FBI director had NO IDEA whether or not there were tapes. He came forward anyway and testified under oath to Congress. He was FBI, and he KNEW if he lied and it could be proven, he is subject to perjury charges. Rump, on the other hand, bluffed and blathered for 41 days, hedging and dancing around the subject. Clearly, Comey knew he is telling the truth and has no fear. Rump just as clearly knows he was lying. And I agree Bob, if there were tapes of any kind, Rump likely erased them—-(sorry, deleted them).

  • ProudLiberalAlways

    I have come to the conclusion that the ONLY thing Rump’s numbers mean is that 31% of the electorate have EXTREMELY LOW standards. Nothing more, nothing less. Same with all of those who voted for him. Standards so low that any nitwit could have gotten in with them. Idiots!!

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  • Zero Dark Thirsty ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Bernie is not a democrat
    Bernie was not ever a democrat
    Bernie should have never ever ever ever been allowed to participate in the Dem primaries.
    bernie’s been in office 30 yrs.. where was he before now? where was his greatest and his support until now?

    Fk Bernie
    I can’t listen to this shxt .. getting harder and harder to listen to these podcasts sadly.. especially in a time when we really need a voice.

    • Kimberley

      I have made it clear that I no longer support what he’s doing. And anyway, you can blame the DNC for letting him run. He asked, they said yes. If you feel that a slightly different opinion is not worthy of listening, i am seriously sorry. I will never allow someone else to dictate what I say or how i feel. I was a staunch supporter of HRC in the general and I support the Democratic Party — even though I don’t always agree with them.

      • Pat Brown

        Bernie hasn’t done a thing for anyone other than him self and his family members! He’s on the take just like everyone else. He’s a fraud and a scammer with a grifter wife in tow. He ran so he could take campaign money, look at the nice lake front home he bought right after his failed campaign was over! I don’t care what excuse they gave as to where the funds came from, both he and Jane are gross opportunists!

        • Kimberley

          Well, as I have stated on more than once occasion, I do not support him anymore. There are a lot of folks out there who still support him and they aren’t bros. The bros, in my opinion, are just as destructive as Trump supporters. But so many who voted for him in the primary, and reluctantly voted for HRC in the general, must feel welcome by the party or we could lose them. We can’t afford to lose anyone. Not suggesting we bend over and let them walk all over us. I’m not going to try and make anyone love HRC or hate Bernie. I just want everyone to realize not one of us is ever going to get every thing we want. We must find a way to unite and realize it will have to be a compromise. 2018 and 2020 are too important. AND if Bernie runs again in 2020, I really doubt he’ll make it out of the primaries.

          • Scopedog

            I agree.

            I have no problem with those who were for Sanders in the primaries but voted for Hillary in the general. And those were the majority of Sanders supporters, from what is known. Many of them are certainly against Trump and that makes them allies.

            The Bros….well, they can all go to hell. Especially those who told people to vote for Trump either to a) get revenge on the DNC or b) because Trump was supposed to be a peace guy while Hillary was a warmonger. Funny, that also sounds like the shit that Jill Stein was spouting.

            I just want everyone to realize not one of us is ever going to get every thing we want. 100% correct, Kimberley. I’m afraid that while this message will get through to many, there are others who will reject it.

            And also, yes, 2018 is important. I’m not even thinking of 2020 right now–I’m thinking about the remaining elections in 2017 (especially the Governor races in New Jersey and Virginia) and also how Democrats can take both the House and possibly the Senate next year. The good news is that the results of the special elections have shown that yes, the GOP is in trouble (even though the media is obsessed over claiming that the Democrats are losing badly). Four special elections in four very red areas turned into pitched battles where the GOP barely squeaked out low single-digit wins–and these were areas where they would easily win by double-digits. Maybe the media won’t notice, but the GOP strategists will.

            I say we quit going for the fantasy WWC and those unrepentant Bros–they are lost–and go instead for those who did not vote last year. I’m quite sure that they are receiving a cruel awakening to the fact that no, voting and politics are not games, and what happens in D.C. does not stay in D.C.

  • katanahamon

    The fact that Rump still has to hold “rallies” to bolster his fragile ego is pathetic..and, who is paying for these events? How much do they cost? And yes, the fact that anyone is stupid enough to attend, and cheer, is perhaps the most depressing aspect. I wonder if they’ll still be cheering when the Repubs finally kill healthcare, give all the rich people all the money, and our country falls apart.

    Why have we still not demanded Rump’s tax returns, and investigated just how much money Rump is funneling to his own businesses as a result of his being president?

    There were simply so many factors working against Hillary specifically, it’s amazing how she still received more than three million votes than Rump. Aside from the meddling, hacking, and disinformation from the Russians, Republicans, and even Sanders, I think that media as a whole bears the major portion of blame by “normalizing” Rump, and not hammering his insufficiencies, his behaviors, his bankruptcies, his shady payoffs, his fake “university,” and many other things. That was no ones’ fault except our own..

    • Zero Dark Thirsty ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      Approx 12 mil (more) total voted for president who did NOT vote for Trump – he certainly doesn’t speak for the masses overall.

      … and you can blame the media for their incompetence.. they were too busy talking about Hillary’s emails 24/7 and giving Trump millions of dollars in free airtime..

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    • Wookie Monster

      Trump is an incredible man-baby who needs his ego constantly stroked. The rally was obviously staged because he needed a fix from adoring crowds after weeks of freaking out because he can’t just order the investigation into his corruption go away.

      • Victor the Crab

        That, and he’s a fat lazy bum whom the idea of real hard work makes his very thin skin crawl.